GDKP in Season of Discovery

[Kaivax]

Starting with Phase 2 of Season of Discovery, we are going to experiment with a policy change: We will no longer support or allow GDKP or “gold bid” raids and dungeons in Season of Discovery. We’ve seen many questions about this policy change, so please read on for our answers and more information.

What is GDKP and why is it being restricted in Season of Discovery?

GDKP is a loot system some players use that essentially allows all loot to be purchased in a dungeon or raid using gold rather than being rolled for or awarded using another loot system. How this typically works is that an item drops and is then put up for gold bid among the members of the group. Players will submit their bids in gold, and the highest bidder wins. After the item is won, gold is traded to the loot master, and then that gold is usually divided among all the raid members.

It’s fair to say that GDKP has some benefits to individuals who don’t want to be tied to a guild or set raid schedule. GDKP raids are, while mostly transactional in nature, another social activity in the game, and we’re hesitant to discourage anything that gets people into groups to play together. However, we’ve been concerned that GDKP erodes traditional guild and social structures that are in many cases the basis of our most fond memories of early versions of World of Warcraft. It’s also undeniable that GDKP contributes to and drives a lot of illicit activity, such as real-money trading (RMT) and botting, as it creates a demand for in-game gold that would not otherwise exist. GDKP can create an “arms race” effect that encourages participating players to purchase gold to be able to compete for the best items.

We’ve seen a lot of feedback and requests from players for us to try putting restrictions on this system, and since Season of Discovery is highly experimental in its nature, this seems like a good opportunity to try to support a version of WoW without GDKP. This is something we’ve been discussing for quite some time, and this is not a decision we’ve arrived at lightly.

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What exactly constitutes a “gold bid” or GDKP raid?

• We’re defining GDKP as any raid or dungeon run where items are awarded in exchange for gold. Please note that we have multiple detection methods for GDKP that are effective both inside and outside of dungeon or raid instances.

What are the penalties for engaging in GDKP in Season of Discovery?

• Account actions up to and including suspension and permanent account closure.

When exactly does this policy go into effect?

• We’ll enact this policy alongside the release of Phase 2 of Season of Discovery on February 8, 2024, at 1:00 p.m. PST.

Does this policy change affect WoW Classic Era, WoW Classic Hardcore, Wrath of the Lich King Classic, or any other version of World of Warcraft other than Season of Discovery?

• No. At this time, this policy change will only affect WoW Classic: Season of Discovery.

Have there been any changes to policies around what is allowed to be advertised in Trade or LookingForGroup chat in Season of Discovery?

• Yes. To go along with this policy update in Season of Discovery, it is no longer permitted to advertise gold bid/GDKP runs in Trade, LookingForGroup, or any other in-game chat channel.

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Player feedback is what led us here, and we’re still keenly interested to hear your thoughts and feelings on this topic. Ultimately this is a test, and if it doesn’t work out, we’ll revisit this policy for later phases of Season of Discovery. We really appreciate the feedback we’ve already received on this topic which helped us arrive at this decision.

Thank you!

[Stablordx-1704668 (Stablordx)]

Great changes, thanks!

[Dragula-1855052 (Dragula)]

I may give SOD a try now due to this change up.

[Galvanize-stormrage]

Fantastic move, thanks for the good work!

[Nocht-chaos-bolt]

oh this gonna be gud

[Freeride-2592115 (Freeride)]

“Just when I thought you couldn’t get any dumber, you go and do something like this- and totally Redeem Yourself” -Harry Dunne

[Borked-598023 (Borked)]

Thanks! I appreciate the consideration for all sides. This is the right move.

[Gerk-skeram]

Cool, now go fix the premades instead of pretending to fix the premades.

[Khanzy-2595238 (Khanzy)]

GDKPs are awful for the game’s health. Having played on Whitemane Era it became a necessity to run them to and it was abundantly clear hosts were looking for gold buyers. Asking them to “flash gold in trade”. They would only take them along if they had abnormally large sums and they were not expected to do anything. It was not reasonable to assume these players earned this gold legitimately given the state of their gear which was often whites and greens from level 15 on a level 60 character.

[TridomKing-2078908 (TridomKing)]

Fantastic decision, and I respect the wherewithal of the team to take a hard stance, which seems so rare in game development these days.

Very hopeful about the community impact this will have moving forward.

[Kiofea-illidan]

Odd change; if players don’t want to engage with this loot system then they don’t have to. This smells like the same thing when Master Loot was removed from the game… Restricting players’ loot systems is always a bad thing, since players can choose which loot system or systems they want to engage with. I was already falling out of Season of Discovery due to it’s drip-feed of content, and this solidified not even bothering to check out Phase 2.

Note: My guild in Season of Discovery was not using GDKP but instead a soft res system for Blackfathom Deeps.

[donnyflash-2688799 (donnyflash)]

lol whatt.

[Superhawt-area-52]

This is a huge win. Thanks for incentivizing communities that don’t buy gold!

[TridomKing-2078908 (TridomKing)]

@Kiofea-illidan

if players don’t want to engage with this loot system then they don’t have to

The devs are keenly aware that the “don’t like it don’t use it” argument is nonsense.

[Balthalor-earthfury]

The only topic of discussion: Why remove GDKP specifically in season of discovery, but not other versions?

Tell me all day why the system is good or bad, but why are we testing this out only on SoD?

[Warrax-675783 (Warrax)]

Because SoD is a testing ground.

[TridomKing-2078908 (TridomKing)]

If it goes well here they have evidence to show it would be a good change elsewhere. They’re more at liberty to experiment in sod

[Kiofea-illidan]

So you can’t form your own group and use a different system? I’m sorry for you then…

[Awfuldin-crusader-strike]

Poors gonna poor