[Feedback Thread Continued Part III] Mercy Updates - Jan 30, 2018


(Tom Powers) #1

Good day all,

Since the balance updates that hit live January 30th, 2018, discussion around the current state of Mercy has continued to be a major subject within the community.

This is a continuation from the previous topic on the forums that is approaching its maximum post cap. Please continue sharing your impressions and opinions in this thread.

Mercy

Valkyrie

  • No longer makes Resurrect instant

  • No longer grants a bonus Resurrect charge

  • The speed bonus Guardian Angel receives when activating Valkyrie has been decreased by 50%Duration reduced from 20 seconds to 15 seconds

Developer Comments: Mercy’s recent Resurrect changes have helped in allowing enemies to have more counter play in dealing with her, but she was able to use Resurrect through Valkyrie enough to largely mitigate the impact of the previous changes. Additionally, we’re toning back the amount of mobility Valkyrie provides through Guardian Angel and reducing its duration to overall reduce the power of this ability.

We are very active on the forums and read your feedback daily. Thank you for providing us your accounts and experiences, as it provides insight to us on how we can improve Overwatch.

Cheers!


Please remove "heroes never die" ult voiceline
Mercy needs another nerf
Mercy's Res isn't special
Let's face the facts
[Feedback Thread Continued] Mercy Updates - Jan 30, 2018
[CONFIRMED?] Mercy is not finished!
Mercy Rework (An idea of mine oh god)
Why Mass Rez needs to Return
Why are developers so silent about Mercy?
Mercy mains, shes balanced
bUfF mErCy!2!1!1
Time to nerf Mercy again
It's happening: Mercy is being Reverted
Please nerf mercy
Revert Mercy to...(it’s not what you think!)
Nerf Mercy into the ground
Revert Mercy. Current mercy is just broken and personally, I find her boring af
[Feedback Thread Continued Part IV] Mercy Updates - Jan 30, 2018
The devs say Mercy is currently balanced
Yes, Mercy needs a nerf
Revert Mercy for the other healers’ sake
Why I (Still) Despise Mercy's Current State
Tanks and supports
The Mercy rework was a Failure
There was nothing wrong with old mercy
Why I Have Yet to Not Despise Mercy's Current State
Five man rez was less toxic
Attention All Mercy Mains!
Remove Rez or remake Mercy
Mercy was balanced before her rework/buffs
Mercy 1.0 with a few tweaks is what Mercy should have been
The Wrong Mercy Nerfs
Nerf Mercy's Guardian Angel Mobility
Nerf mercy or this game will die, and none of us want that
Just Delete Her Already
Mercy change idea
Mercy rework ideas
For those: "Mercy was weak before her Rework"
Stop Calling for mercy Nerf
So... Mercy nerfs on the next PTR?
Mass rez was balanced (dont add this to mega thread pls)
Bring back mass ress
The mercy problem
How to balance Mercy for all
Please explain (Mercy)
Please explain (Mercy)
There is only 2 ways to balance mercy
I wish Mercy was underpowered in unskilled hands
Okay so like mercy needs to be stopped lmfao
Mercy’s Resurrect could’ve been the Reverse McCree Deadeye
I wouldn't mind a Mercy revert
Why are people so intent on killing mercy?
It's time to nerf Mercy
It's time to nerf Mercy
So, Blizzard, is this how things are gonna go?
Mercy doesn't need a nerf. She needs another rework
Reverting Mercy would not solve the issue unless
Mercy needs another rework
If Mercy Is Nerfed, She NEEDS This Buff
Mercy post-nerf has offically been picked similarly to Mercy pre-nerf
Mercy is not OP :
Increase Mercy Skill-Celling
Mercy - Still a bit too good
Leave Mercy Alone
Mass Rez may be coming back after all
Give Mercy a Mini Ult?
Guys, saying “revert mercy”
It's time, revert Mercy
Rework Mercy Proposals
So, let me get this straight? (Mercy, Order of Events)
My issue with Mercy
Revert Mercy Please!
Tracking Mercy's gm pickrates day 5
Mercy not fun to play anymore
Mercy's current kit is unhealthy for the game
The Earth is flat.. Mercy's insane pickrates almost %100
Resurrect Mercy, Valkyrie Mercy or...?
We need old mercy more than ever [EDITED]
I don't want Mercy 1.0 back
Mercy 1.0 would save us from this meta
Bring Back Old Mercy Or The Game Will Be Hell
I think I'm done
Why Mercy is broken
Mercy needs to be reverted
Mercy needs another rework, prove me wrong
It's obviously the Mercy players faults
Mercy res ult vs mercy res ability
Mercy Rez Annoyance
Resurrect needs to go
Yes, Mercy needs a nerf
Mercy Should Be Looked At Again
Mercy re-balance idea
Why I (Still) Despise Mercy's Current State
We're still in a Mercy Meta
Make resurrect only useable during Mercy's ultimate
Just Revert Mercy, no one wants her current state
Revert Mercy Please
What if Resurrect worked like Medics Ubercharge?
Mercy's old ult
Bliz forcing us to play mercy
I think Nerfing Mercy Again is out of the question
Mercy Valkyrie Is Not What It's Supposed To Be
Mercy Valkyrie Is Not What It's Supposed To Be
I still think Mercy outshines other healers
I still think Mercy outshines other healers
Could mercy function fine
Mercy's Old Mass Res Ultimate Should Have Been Reworked Not Removed
Is Mercy ever going to get nerfed?
Rework Valkyrie
Mercy Kit Rework Eventually?
bUfF mErCy!2!1!1
"move on with mercy" fallacy
The only reasonable Mercy change
If Valk enhances Mercy's abilities
Nerf Mercy's heal and buff Valk
To all the people saying "Mercy is fine"
Mass rez could've been balanced
Can we take another look at Mercy?
Can we take another look at Mercy?
Revert Mercy day 1
If Mass Rez was so op
Mercy is fine and meta
Old mercy countered stacking ults
Mercy - The Angel of Overwatch, a Plea
How to ACTUALLY fix Mercy
Mercy is boring
Mercy's Valkiry Improvements
Valkyrie with no quick rez OR rez reset feels wrong
My idea for a TRUE mercy rework
Just Boycott Mercy (Seriously)
If you could give mercy a new ult what would it be?
Mercy's rez is trash teir
Why I hate brigitte
Mercy's Rez During Valkyrie
So you ever playing mercy
Mercy really needs fixed
So, why is the mega-thread a thing?
Stop asking for Mercy reverts/changes
Thoughts on How Mercy is now?
[Feedback Thread Continued Part IV] Mercy Updates - Jan 30, 2018
The Megathread has a point
So, why is the mega-thread a thing?
Mercy QoL, bug fixes, and other welcome improvements
Let us talk about her
If "Fun is Subjective" in Overwatch
Please let Mercy cancel res!
Exactly as Expected
Why I Despise Mercy's Current State
Looks like fun isn't a priority for devs
Honestly, What do You Want Said About Mercy?
Exactly as Expected
We got a response on Mercy
We got a response on Mercy
Why do the devs hate Mercy?
How is the old mercy more "fun to play" then the new one?
How to get Mercy fans to quit spamming the forums
đź•Š [Mercy] Mass Rez as a cooldown ability
Yet another Mercy Thread
Why I Have Yet to Not Despise Mercy's Current State
Wow another Mercy Post
Is this why I am at trust level 0?
A challenge for Mercy mains
Reaper's spread is completely busted. THIS SHOULDN'T GO LIVE
The Anger Around the PTR Mercy Buffs Explained
Why isn't there a Mega/funnel thread for Mercy yet?
Once you have Trust Level 3, unless you get flagged or reported, you should not lose Trust Level 3
Valkyrie Playstyle
[Feedback Thread Continued Part IV] Mercy Updates - Jan 30, 2018
We are very active on the forums and read your feedback daily.
We are very active on the forums and read your feedback daily.
We are very active on the forums and read your feedback daily.
Mercy Mains - Are you currently happy with the Rework?
Why I still have yet to accept/enjoy any of the Mercy changes
Where is the Mercy Megathread?
What people don't get about Mercy mains complaining
Why I Have Yet to Not Despise Mercy's Current State
How do we know that the forum system is automated?
Mercy can't take any more nerfs
The Mercy Feedback Backup Thread
Yes now I am 3 trust level!
Use left click to Rez allies as Mercy
My Proposed Mercy fixes
Suggestions for Mercy from someone with too much time on her đź“ť
Mercy has had 10 nerfs since her 'successful' rework
YAYY Valkyrie is even more trash now
Lets's be real with Mercy as a whole right now. She's fine
Blizz are you ok?
[FEEDBACk THREAD PART III] MERCY MEGATHREAD
September 1st, 2016 (mercy nerf rebuttal)
My thoughts on how to make people "Happy" with Mercy
How will the Mercy nerf afffect YOU?
Mercy: Analysis, Conclusion, and Recommended Solution
Mercy: She's balanced now. Also, heres a 17% nerf while everyone else gets a buff
"Hide n rez was auful character design"
"Die on point, I have rez!"
(Tom Powers) #2

#3

Obviously this could be argued :blush: but isn’t getting a defensive assist equally life-saving? And with the other supports ability to heal more, stun and shield, isn’t it justified that they don’t have res?- making her an equal support as opposed to the best? I don’t think she needs to be the best but with equalness in support output, I think it’s a bit odd that she has some of the weakest self defense from hide and res till now and continuing. And does that make healers who don’t die inevitably better? Let’s keep a polite discussion please :thinking::nerd_face:


#4

94.76% of matches in the OWL say differently, along with her top 3 pickrate on latter.


#5

It’s only special for one shot mechanics like widow… That’s why she’s used so much in OWL. If your widow misses and gets killed she gets a free second chance.


#6

Sure, a defensive assist is life saving, but that takes significantly more skill than standing behind a barrier and pressing E when the game prompts you to.

There’s a lot more risk when talking about other abilities than to Res. Most other defensive assists put both heroes at risk. Sure, you can argue that Mercy is at risk when she tries to rez, but if she’s good, she’s behind something and not much can hit her.

A good mercy won’t res unless it’s confirmed that she can by her own judging. A good support of any other hero will likely put in more effort to save you, as they can generally do more than Mercy can on their own.

It’s really a toss up.


#7

Is pro usage a steady stat to balance average gameplay? In that regard one may (pun intended) argue Mei isn’t balanced just because pros don’t run her as much, even though her buffs and proven healthy.


#8

Mercy isn’t defenseless, she’s just more of the “flight” kind than the “fight” kind though. She’s better at kiting the flankers than at killing them, but her mobility gives her great survivability. And her beams that attach makes it possible for her to heal while fleeing…


#9

I await to see how Brigitte who can prevent headshot death will adjust Mercys pickrate. But great point


#10

We all know that they look at both pro, casual and competitive at all levels. This is not a mystery if they’ve kept up with Kaplan’s comments.


#11

i say they mean something, if a hero is used for over 90% of matches at the highest level of the game they likely don’t need a buff, but there’s also the part where she is in the top 3 pick-rate on the comp latter.


#12

Thanks for another trashcan where Mercy threads can be thrown :D. I can really tell that our feedback matters to the Overwatch team and it’s great that you’ve been giving us updates on what you guys have been doing to Mercy and what you think her path will be! /s


#13

Are we seriously starting yet another thread? Are we going to keep doing this until Overwatch 2 is released?


#14

Mercy needs huge buffs
give her 150 shields

or

self barrier/bubble


#15

I only want to be one of the first posts in this thread, pretty sure will reach 15.459 posts in exactly 1 month, 13 days and 18 hours.

( Like this post if i was right)


#16

Did that last thread really go that many replies without a DEV issuing a statement? lol

yikes

but hey, they read it!


#17

finally i can be one of the first few posts…

mercy is balanced right now tho


#18

Hey! Mercy thread part 20! Months after the last nerf! Why is this still a thing?


#19

Cool, I’m putting my recent post here again just because i’m that kind of person and i’m getting tired of this.

Listen, Mercy was a victim of certain bad balance choices around her. Now hear me out. Ana was released onto the pc on 7/19/16 https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20747185139

then on 8/2/16 Anas’ rate of fire and magazine size was increased because they deemed her as a little weak. https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20747925082

On 9/2/16 Lucios’ amp it up on the ps4 was decreased by 30% due to him being a “must pick” https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20749174841

then on 10/11/16 everything started going downhill for Ana. Anas’ ultimate cost was increased by 20% and her grenade radius was increased by 3 to 4 meters https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20749875377.

Then on 11/14/16 Anas’ ult no longer gave speed boost to whoever she applied it to and Lucios’ Amp it up was decreased by 10 % while Blizzard claimed it made him a mandetory pick https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20752015856 .

As the new year rolled around so did more nerfs for Ana, decreasing her Biotic grenade healing boost by 50% as they claimed it had “too much healing” https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20752795395

In February which im sure it miffed a lot of people off is when, wait for it, Mercys’ invulnerability as she rez’d was implemented due to the fact she died a lot to use it. https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20753535162

On March 20, 2017 Ana again was nerfed(feels bad man), her damage being decreased from 80 dps to 60 dps to make her “less threatening ” https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20753508356

After Ana was nerfed, it looked like it was Lucios’ turn to face the music because due to him still being a must pick on April 7 ,2017 his area of healing was reduced from 30m to 10m , his hps was increased by 30% and self heals reduced by 25% because of his must pick status of raw healing it forced him to stay close to his team https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20753818008

That leaving Mercy/Zen in the support roster as the only main healers until mercys’ rework on sept 19, 2017 (Moira wasn’t introduced until Nov 16, 2017 https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20759535818).
(Note: Anas dps was increased from 60 to 70 dps last november in the patch Moira was introduced but it doesn’t matter considering Dive was and is the current meta as of right now, which isn’t helping her in the slightest as a sniper when she can’t get to high places and Anas’ only method of escape is her sleep dart .)
(If I missed anything please let me know.)
*Also put mass res as an ult again with tweaks please


#20

A fresh Mercy megathread? Hopefully the old 20k one is still around so users can still grind trust level 3 requirements.