No winner/loser queues, right Blizzard?

It’s why I don’t play racing games either, and some fighting games.

Absolutely loathe rubber banding difficulty.

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It’s not just me. It’s basically the whole forum except a few people like you who don’t believe it’s happening for some twisted/weird reason…???

Hundreds of people in the past 60 days, across every rank and platform and website, all been suddenly saying the same thing. I’m being generous and stopped very early in the search results, no need to post them all, this is just a very small portion of the full picture.

Something.IS.Wrong.

This wouldnt be this bad with a “perfect” matchmaker. It wasn’t like this with the mediocre OW1 matchmaker. Something changed a few months ago. Everyone sees it except you and a few others apparently.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/solution-about-matchmaking-issue/787091

Sorry bud but I can’t take beating my face into a brick wall anymore. Thanks for the convo, I’m off to bed haha.

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There will always be times, where you go on a loss streak. The reason for it might just be that you or your mates face better opponents, even tho you all are rated the same.

Yes, and you expect to see that.

Ok, so what is it? Because here is the thing, OP’s complaint, and your complaint and the 50/50 players complaints are all VERY VERY VERY different complaints.

Throwing a list of people complaining about matchmaking at me is UTTERLY useless unless you can find something in common with their complaints which are not actually in conflict with each other.

Having a bunch of people yelling that the car is too red, and others saying the car is too blue, and others complaining the car is too green…

And then you coming along and saying “see something is wrong with the color of the car because so many people are complaining about it.” is 100% god damn useless.

I can tell you what is going on.

There was a move to 5v5, and the games became much more stompy. But where is the thing, that isn’t the matchmaker. - that is a bunch of designs choices which mean a game is extremely sensitive to someone being slightly better can cause the game to be an utter rollover. Or even hero choices.

But just like you saying “people should be punished to stop them leaving games as much” isn’t the matchmaker either.

I’ve LITERALLY had people complain that the matchmaker made the game a stomp, when they were stomped in one direction in the first map, and they stomped the other team in the next 2.

What the ever hell could the matchmaker have anything to do with that?

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There’s no helping these Blizzard apologists.

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Company denies allegations that, if proven true, could cause it’s consumers to distrust them. More at 11 as the story unfolds.

In other unrelated news, corporations have successfully created various systems that maximizes consumer engagement unbeknownst to said consumer.

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“Something’s seriously wrong with matchups.”
“nuh uh!”
:man_shrugging: Im slightly less infuriated by it after finally removing game from my hard drive, couldn’t take it anymore

and now I’m removing myself from this topic as well, never gonna get anywhere lol, I suggest you do the same

We are just screaming into the void (along with the other hundreds of people also making the same topics like yours and nothing’s happening)

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Here is the thing, you literally have people pointing at something which engagement based matchmaking DOESN’T DO, and are trying to use that as proof that they are using engagement based matchmaking.
see…

ok?

You literally have someone who makes matchmakers trying to explain what is going on there, and listening to your complaints to see if something could be done to fix it.

You don’t want to actually understand enough so you can take part in a conversation to fix it.

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OP played (engaged with the game) for 30 games in total, 16 games AFTER going on a 14 game lose streak. I’d say their matchmaking is working perfectly for engagement.

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They would be more likely to get frustrated and quit overwatch if that kept up. which is why it is not someone which engagement based matchmaking does.

But he didn’t. So it worked.

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I have a rock which repels tigers to sell you.

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And you just like to debate and hold your ground and read your own paragraphs I think

There’s nothing more I can say

(I have years of personal evidence) “not good enough/gamblers say the same thing/matchmakers don’t actually work that way”

(I have hundreds of examples of other people all agreeing there’s something wrong lately) “there’s different complaint specifics so it’s all useless”

I literally am wasting my time at this point so in case you missed it:

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On the contrary you’re the one eating up Blizzard’s garbo denial of reality. I’m just the one pointing out other people’s lived experiences. The devs have also said they fixed the matchmaker 4 times in total including yesterday BUT here we are still.

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Yes, and those experiences don’t match up to engagement based matchmaking.

They are talking about tuning it. You know, where I was talking about the same options which you end up tweaking when you run matchmaking earlier and asking which people wanted changed.

They are making it so they increasing the weighting on “distance between mmr” of people in the match, so matches will have people of closer MMR together.

This will however have a bunch of other effects, which people will complain about.

Literally gambling.
Like damn, remember when video games used to be just fun?

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They do because people are still engaging with the game. Systems like these prey on the same psychological aspects that humans experience when gambling. “Ah, was just a bad game… Maybe next game will be good” etc.

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You are looking at the room of people and saying “see it works” while not looking at the people who are not longer in the room.

100% Survivor bias.

Or to put it another way, “Man who made 1000x times his money in lottery tickets says the way to make money is to play the lottery”

Who’s a survivor here?? I don’t play this garbo game anymore

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And yet, you don’t look at the reason you left and understand that if there was effective engagement matchmaking, it wasn’t engaging for you. But you want to attribute that it is there, because someone else stayed?