I started this post a week ago in response to the soar 30% nerf. As you can see, the community has exploded on the GD, as well as, the alpha forum channel and many alpha testers have been providing great video feedback on how it feels currently.
Please keep utilizing this thread as a focal point of discussion and thank you.
For starters:
Here is an amazing video pre-nerf and what the community could be experiencing:
Here are some good side by sides that show how much slower it feels post nerf:
The maximum speed for Soar, the Dracthyr racial ability, has been reduced on the Dragonflight Alpha and Soul and Maximum have made some comparisons of the ability from before and after the nerf. See what that looks like!
Blizzard Team, please see the following links of the feedback provided on the forums:
Has anyone even given a good reason Soaring really fast is OP and broken other than “because my class can’t” or “because it is” I’m not sure how traversing the old world and fast speeds is a problem at all. Even if blizz puts new content in the old world, why does it matter if they can get a quest done faster? There is no bonus for completion time…
Chromie Time
chromie time makes 0 sense since they wont be able to do it as Dracthyr they will hit 60 before they leave the starting zone meaning …
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/feedback-dragonriding/1279462/71
Greetings Dragonriders and Dracthyr!
With the next alpha build, we’re making a change to Soar for Dracthyr that reduces their maximum speed from (roughly) 930% to 640%. The maximum speed for Dragon Isles Drakes is unchanged. This only applies to the Dracthyr Soar racial ability.
In the Dragon Isles, all characters of all races are on similar footing in regards to their ability to traverse the terrain because everyone ca…
Vynesttra perfectly reflects how many of us feel about this change:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/feedback-dragonriding/1279462/81
Blizzard I read your reasoning and I fail to see how Soar’s original speed entailed any advantage whatsoever. It’s old content we’re talking about, not new current endgame. Druids can instantly fly and herb and have increased speed in instances, Mages can cast teleport/portal spells, Humans always reach first to Exalted compared to the rest of the races …
As I’m not in the Alpha and I cannot directly interface with the devs, I’ll do so here.
This seems like a pointless nerf. Not only is this an extremely unnecessary change, but a lot of the reasons cited are contradictory explicitly throughout the history of the game. The fact that it’s even on a 5 minute cooldown is a bit staggering, considering it’s supposed to emulate dragon riding, we can place it’s value the same as a standard mount.
Worgens don’t have a cooldown for their racial, so what …
Just a friendly reminder that they nerfed Soar on a Friday hoping youd all forget about it by Monday so they could ignore player feedback. Dont let them.
The change was entirely unnecessary and is hated by nearly every single tester, they claimed it gave Dracthyr an advantage in empty zones yet not a single person can say what that advantage actually is.
They nerfed it to intentionally slow down the game and force players to stay online longer, this exact same philosophy that caused Shadowland…
How would you feel if Blizzard decided to change your Teleport/Portals so they’re on a 5 minute cooldown and have a chance of just completely not working out how you planned leaving you a couple metres from where you were? Oh and best part you’d then be forced to wait 5 whole minutes before you can try again you know because fairness
Do you care if someone can outspeed you in irrelevant content every 5 minutes because of their class?
If so, do you care that Mages can do accomplish much the same thing, much more efficiently, with no cooldown?
Things can be fun, i’m just trying to remain within the realm of reason with my requests. Do i think having soar everywhere would be fun? Yes. Do i think they’d ever go for that? No, not really, and i understand why that is.
So i come in with the attitude of compromise. Right now, it would be within the realm of reason to just ask for it to have no cooldown in dragonflight areas. The next level up would be to ask for it to work off the vigor system like the mounts.
Having it have no cooldown e…
I believe that mages’ ability to create Portals to various locations all over the world creates a drastic efficiency advantage over characters of other classes when playing the game, whether that’s Chromie Time quests, clearing old raids for transmog, pet battling, etc.
In line with the philosophy for nerfing Dracthyr’s Soar, this ability should be removed from the game, as the knowledge that mages are no longer “blitzing across continents” will allow me to have more fun on my monk.
Thank you. …
Soar - Racial
1.5 sec cast - 5 min cooldown
Muster your strength and launch into the air.
Cooldown begins when you land.
Please reduce the CD of the Dracthyr racial so that it can be utilized more like a normal mount for them in the open world (outside of the Dragon Isles).
Principles of Soaring - Dracthyr Racial
Requires Evoker
While Soaring through the air, pointing yourself toward any given direction sends you in that direction.
Pointing yourself downward grants more momentum. Ev…
Morning everyone!
This is to remind the developers that we would like them to address the latest nerf to Soar, reducing its speed by 30% without touching its cooldown.
We simply want to freely fly with our dragons, that’s it. You’ve developed a very fun racial that let us do that precisely, and until the speed nerf the only problem was the very long cooldown. The speed reduction, despite your arguments, does not make sense. Dracthyr cannot fly across continents much faster than other races - t…
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/feedback-dragonriding/1279462/92
Thanks for the thread!
I added you to my soar compilation thread.
There’s no reason at all to maintain a cooldown of 5 minutes for a nerfed ability.
Worgen don’t have to wait 5 minutes to use their Running Wild ability.
Druids don’t have to wait 5 minutes to use their instant cast Flying form ability.
Mages don’t have to wait 5 minutes to use their teleport/portal spells.
When are you going to stop being arrogant SoB’s and admit you are wrong? I have yet to see anyone who wanted the Dracthyr soar nerf and the obvious solution to the meaningless concerns regarding balance on PET BATTLE FARMING (do people really do that still???) is to just enable dragon riding in all zones. This seems like such an astonishingly easy win for you Blizzard. Everyone wants it. Anyone who wants to afk on auto-fly on a 310% mount can still do that if they want. You will get nothing but …
Its exactly what they did with the Shadowlands Alpha. Torghast was so much fun in testing, people loved it but slowly Blizzard tweaked and nerfed and added and now we have a mess that people will do anything to avoid.
Thats whats happening to Dragonriding in Dragonflight, by the time it launches itll be so hated that we’ll all just be begging for Pathfinder to come back and give us the same boring flight mechanic from 20 years ago.
There’s zero reason to have reduced the flying speed of Dracthyr. The expansion is literally called Dragonflight. Stop trying to tell the players what’s fun or fair.
This overthinking is what has ruined WoW so much.
You guys have a great initial instinct such as making dragon flying and then you ruin it because you think it might be a little unfair.
This has ruined so many aspects of WoW and now it’s about to ruin yet another expansion and Blizzard is just going to completely ignore the playe…
Please feel free to share your thoughts!
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Thanks for reminding them.
Blizzard please, all we ever wanted was to freely fly with our own wings without having to wait 5 minutes each time. If you’re not going to reconsider unnerfing Soar or reducing its cooldown, could you please give us a “Running Wild” ability, where we just fly with our wings with normal flying, wherever flying is enabled?
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I got some glazed choco dipped Doughnuts and some filter coffee . Feels like heaven so I stopped reading the rest of your post
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Just a reminder Blizzard that there are people who support your change to soar and the reasoning behind it. Don’t capitulate to the vocal minority.
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This all coming from a Demon Hunter where we have clipped wings…
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Pretty sure your in the minority on this bud
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But not alone. I too support the Soar change in the hopes that Dracthyr will be unshackled from Evoker.
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Don’t forget to remind them about the slime cat fiasco they need to fix as well
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Something’s not quite adding up.
3888 posts and 3885 achieves, why are you swapping characters to double post?
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steals a few donuts and a coffee and wiggles toes
Clearly based on all the posts upset about the change, it was far too OP.
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This is rich coming from you
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Yeah, the people with common sense that understand how ridiculous the current Drakthyr racial power lineup is.
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I want Evoker to succeed and be a full on blast.
Once dragon riding is fully cemented in as a wow feature moving forward, my next ask would be to extend the momentum feature to druids and demon hunters.
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Evoker is 100% going to fail because it can only soar at twice the speed of an epic mount instead of 3 times as fast.
Some people in this thread really need to get a grip.
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Lol more like the devs using pet battles and chromie time as a reasoning to make it less fun
Every time the devs made a decision (azerite armor, legion Lego lottery, conduit energy) to micro manage the fun or the way people like to play has back-fired.
This decision is no different
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Wow this is way better than the one I made lol
Also it wasnt immediately taken over by a troll.
Cept this one.
This person is a troll, they spent the entire weekend yelling at people that Dracthyr need nerfed because they think it devalues their mage for reasons
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Still waiting on you to explain how its OP my dude, but it seems like all you can do is say you feel like it is with no proof or reason and then start hurling insults.
You know, like you dont know what youre talking about?
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Hey thats me! Couldnt have said it better myself (because Im in the OP so I did say it! :D)
Shame the thread was immediately overtaken by the fun police who want to try to convince Blizz that the 2 or 3 thousands posts disagreeing with them are all wrong and these 3 or 4 angry trolls know some secret nobody else is in on.
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