Blizzard Who Hurt You? - Soar Nerf

Greetings Dragonriders and Dracthyr!

With the next alpha build, we’re making a change to Soar for Dracthyr that reduces their maximum speed from (roughly) 930% to 640%. The maximum speed for Dragon Isles Drakes is unchanged. This only applies to the Dracthyr Soar racial ability.

In the Dragon Isles, all characters of all races are on similar footing in regards to their ability to traverse the terrain because everyone can summon a Dragon Isles Drake. However, this isn’t the case in other areas of the game where flying mounts are the mainstay of travel. In Eastern Kingdoms, Soar is currently over twice as fast as Epic Flying which travels at 410% speed. The result is that Dracthyr have a drastic efficiency advantage over characters of other races when doing non-Dragon Isles content, whether that’s Chromie Time quests, clearing old raids for transmog, pet battling, etc.

Soar is important to the identity of Dracthyr. From the outset of the design process we knew that Dracthyr had to be able to fly in some form, even if we didn’t know the specifics until later. But, Soar is also a Racial ability, and was never intended to be a massive efficiency or performance improvement over other races. These two goals are somewhat in conflict: Make Soar fun and fulfill the fantasy of being a flying creature, but don’t give one race an outsized advantage across large swathes of the game.

What we’ve found while playtesting these changes internally is that the speed change didn’t diminish the fun of the locomotion mechanics. The engaging control system, gameplay of conserving momentum, and challenge of navigating obstacles, are all still present, while also rewarding skillful use of Soar with being able to travel faster than Epic flying mounts. This hits both of the goals nicely – Dracthyr can engage in the dynamic, immersive locomotion of dragonriding, but aren’t able to blitz across a continent in half the time as other characters.

The Alpha period is time for experimentation, testing, and learning, and that often leads to change. Due to Soar being an evergreen feature of the Dracthyr race, we feel that reducing the top speed is necessary for the long-term health of the game. Thank you for your passion, feedback, and understanding. See you in Azeroth!

Why are you actively removing the fun aspect of this racial and not understanding why folks are excited for it? This is a race that can ONLY be one class with NO transmog attachment to their dragon form. And you are actively gutting probably the most adventurous aspect of your heavily restrictive race.

I can’t believe you guys have done this.

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Because it’s overpowered?

Overpowered abilities are fun, but honestly how can you not see being able to fly at 900% speed in the old world is too strong.

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Who cares? It’s flying from A to B. If it’s too powerful then let folks use their dragonriding in Azeroth.

Light forbid folks just have some good fun with their new damn system.

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Every other class who isn’t Dracthyr?

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You mean every other class that gets Dragon Riding as well?

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Not outside of dragon isles, which if you read the post is the exact reason they nerfed soar.

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Which is the exact reason I flipping said

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No use arguing with this dude. He’s anti-fun on all threads.

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They needed to reduce/remove the CD…

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And Blizzard have made it clear they aren’t adding dragon riding to the old world (yet).

Hence the nerf.

It’s still double the speed of flying mounts.

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There was fun detected

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Their inability to embrace the fun aspect of this race doesn’t leave me hopeful.

Which is exactly why they should add it.

“Oh man, it would be so awful if folks enjoyed this new system in Azeroth. Can’t believe folks would want to enjoy soaring through the skies at a fast speed. We sure don’t want to encourage that kind of behavior.”

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Sure, I agree they should. But they’ve said they wont yet, hence the nerf. Once/If they get around to adding it to old world for everyone I’m sure they’ll revisit the nerf.

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Dude no. They don’t do this. If they did this then they would have unnerfed toys a long time ago. They’re going to call it a day and freaking Torghast the hell outta the fun of Dragonriding and Soar.

The nerf is 100% unwarranted. It would be like nerfing Druids from being able to fly and pick herbs.

The CD is STILL 5 minutes. They are NOT listening to these Alpha testers.

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Can’t have OP flying in dated zones that don’t matter… yes Blizz… "health of the game’’

:man_facepalming:

Blizz, that is the stupid thing I’ve read all of the past hr so that is saying much.

I love clearing old raids fast… I don’t think getting to pet battling masters faster means anything to someone flying there faster or otherwise. It literally does nothing to affect anyone in older zones lmao

edit: sorry autai, shows as you but it was directed to the quoted post by blizz.

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They need to remove the 5 minute cool down. I’m ok with not going as fast as the dragon riding mount. There’s no 5 min cooldown to summon the drake is there then if they are going to nerf the dracythr’s speed they should remove the cooldown to compensate for it.

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too strong for what? There’s no competitive gameplay in the open old world. It’s just Dracthyr players flying around having fun doing literally nothing but optional content. Who cares if they are flying around quickly?

And I can even get behind lowering the speed. IF they lower the CD to around 2 minutes.

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It was my understanding that Evokers start at a high level? Am I wrong on this?

Yeee, you start at… 58?

Dude forget that. Zero CD. Soar shouldn’t have a CD at all. It’s a dragon race utilizing their wings.

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Well, druids shouldn’t be able to do this either IMO. But that ship has long sailed.

“We want to be really OP” - I’m sure they listened, they just (rightfully) chose not to act on the feedback.

For a racial ability.

In dragon isles sure. Everywhere else? Hell no.

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