I no longer am willing to support AH after trade debacle in S4.
D3 trade only way forward.
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Too many words, I didn’t read it! But I have faith in you though! 
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I tried to really get it posted comprehensively. ITs worth a look. Please read!
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Any AH system is better than 3rd party trading IMO even if it is just basic.
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Diablo players in 2024 are too shady for an Auction House.
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Good brainstorming as always, but I don’t think it’s a good idea to tie gameplay mechanics to the AH because not everyone is going to like it. (There are quite many narrow minded people against the whole idea of AH).
IMO, It’s possible to create an Auction House which improves the game and doesn’t really have any downsides to it. For example this sounds like a great idea and would prevent some of the negative effects:
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Come on man, Auction House is what i hate the most for Diablo. Just leave it. That’s sucks for normal players. AH can only bring PTW.
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First I appriciate you put some work in something you don´t like.
You delivered some good ideas.
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I agree AH should be locked behind some in game time. I am not sure if it lowers bots/RMT but it for sure doesn´t hurt. Trading is not needed in lower lvl anyway.
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Fees
I ok with fee when you sell items. It helps to keep gold down (as it work in D3)
I am not ok with fee for placement. Lots of player (myself included) are not aware of price, this will lead to better not place items or place them too low. -
Slots
I agree with limited slots, it will forbid to place every single garbage but I don´t think there should be special slots.
a) AH have to have filters, sorthing, min-max affices etc (if AH won´t have that it would be chore like hell to find anything). So some highlights will be irrelevant anyway. -
Fliping.
I wasn´t sure at first if it good, because it woul lead to bricked items but considering that enchanted items will be untradeable anyway, that won´t be a problem. So good thing I guess.
Rest propositions about token and special slots seems to me to much without any real purpose.
Also I don´t know what buy order is
Spoiler alert:
It was not.
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same here , i will never ever trade because it simply reduce the longevity of the game.
and to this day i still think it’s an error to make legendary and unique tradeable and to let uber mat be tradeable.
that being said, as it is currently, an AH would be indeed better simply because 3rd party website as the sole way of trading only bring more and more RMT and shady business.
if Blizzard did an AH at the very least it would lessen the use of 3rd party website and thus reducing, albeit a bit, the RMT.
Heck, removing regular trading altogether and only being able to :
- trade through AH
- give item like in D3 : to the player that was partied with you at the time of the drop
would severely reduce RMT while still retaining trading.
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I like it a lot that bought items becomes BoA.
Searching for items, selling all the good and even great ones while saving up for a Godly one that is a BIG investment is a bit of fun. Makes trading and selling a thing without turning the game into a trading simulator.
The tax system would also flush some gold away, liking it.
Items becoming BoA would also flush items away, in D2r for example it takes less than a week before items are cheap as hell because there is no item-sink. This is not only because of duping and hacking even though they ofc escalate things even more.
Well we’ll see what happens but cudos to you for the idea and time you took thinking about it!
Hell no. Why would you ask for a P2W auction house?
I don’t like the concept of premium slots, either. Having sponsored ads show up at the top instead of respecting the applied sorting is anti consumer. The market needs to be fair. I don’t see why the AH should take a cut of the sell price, either. Do you think D4 needs more gold sinks to combat inflation? Is that really an issue? With fees up to 30% people will continue to trade on discord.
This would be my pitch:
- No limit on how may items can be put up for auction.
- Sellers don’t specify min bids or sell price
- Buyers search the AH by selecting the slot and the affixes they’re looking for, as well as the rolls’ quality bracket 1-100%
- Prices are calculated based on supply and demand.
- Items are sold in the order they were enlisted or randomly
Alternatively:
- Instead of an auction house where people list their items we get a place to place “buy orders”
- Loot drops get an additional indicator for market value based on outstanding buy orders
- Your items’ vendor price changes based on the current market and when you sell an item to a vendor it instead is sold to the player with the highest buy order.
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AH is a system that will be poorly implemented and quickly inflated. Consider the amount of bugs this game still has and how a simple bug can completely ruin the economy of a season. Then imagine all the unnecessary Ls the game is going to receive and for what?
Trading is already limited to a small group of people who want to actively engage in that, bringing this to the masses will only cause problems. It’s a headache that D4 does not need, especially now when there is so much that needs to be done. It will take away resources and development time and it will continue to be a work in progress for many months.
I am heavily against anything that is not strictly gameplay and end game related.
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TLDR… If you think D4 could have a working AH… Sorry, but just no… Look at the attempt that Diablo 3 tried with auction house. Game became the quickest Auction House simulator.
The track record is not the best since of launch. They are making some positive changes, but they continue to make same mistakes from previous games.
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System supporting trading is one of the most end game related thing.
I agree there is no need to rush AH in seasson 4. but it is something what has to be done.
Yes, it should release at the same time as the SSF mode.
Blizzard should not get back into the AH game, it is a plague on any game that has it.
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Not the biggest fan of auction houses but an in game tool beats using websites. Making users alt tab into anything encourages cheating and you lose engagement.
this looks interesting
I wouldn’t mind an auction house for the simple fact of convenience and access to items. They shouldn’t go the real money route though, and I don’t think they ever will again after Diablo 3.
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