I can really see the appeal of this addon. But hiding behind mountains, debris and structures used to be a very real tactic for in WPvP. With Spy, it breaks it. And yeah, you get the upper hand knowing where players are but it’s not part of the actual game or your class unless you’re a hunter/druid with track humanoids.
This certainly needed its own thread.
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It simply takes the fun out of WPvP. Wish Blizzard paid more attention to it.
Really? What a novel perspective. Thank you for creating a new thread to express this sentiment. All the other “ZOMG SPY ADDON OP PLZ BAN”
Blizzard, this addon needs to go.
Completely breaks World PvP and the true Classic experience, and will support the whole “mafia” nonsense in Ungoro.
The addon scans the combat log for actions performed by enemy players. If an enemy player is detected the addon will attempt to determine their class, race and level based on the ability that was used. The addon will then sound an alert and add the enemy player to its list.
Spy can be configured to announce enemy player encounters to a chat chan…
Hi all,
In vanilla, one of my favorite things to do on my night elf rogue was to sneak up on people out in the open world or in cities / towns and nobody would be suspecting me. I had the element of surprise and it felt great.
With the near-universal use of the Spy addon, however, this is never the case. The moment I use stealth, enemies start mass aoeing/clumping together.
I don’t feel sneaky anymore. In fact, I feel the complete opposite - I feel as if, by using stealth, I am mass announcin…
Ban people who use Spy addon. It’s borderline hacking.
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why do people keep saying the spy addon was buffed? what did they do to buff it?
In WoW Classic I play as a Paladin and Priest. The Spy Addon has no effect on me…but it does effect rogues, druids, and Night Elves who use their racial Shadowmeld before a Horde player enters a zone, etc…
I’m sick of watching all of these youtube videos saying “To be competitive in PvP you MUST download the Spy Addon so that you know where all of the stealthed rogues and druids are.” Are you kidding me? Do these people not realize that they are literally destroying the game by saying to do tha…
This addon is ruining the game and let me explain why, it gives players who use this addon a absolute unfair advantage when it comes to world PvP and it is very apparent in phase 2. I play a Hunter and I have 8 different tracking abilities that are now useless and obsolete and no longer a defining part of the Hunter kit, why? because everyone gets a better form of tracking for FREE. This addon needs to be bannable for using or you need to make it so that it doesn’t function in the live game.…
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I believe the spy addon is cheating, here are the reasons why:
Stealth classes/players rely on the element of surprise to fight and gain and advantage. This addon robs them of this element of the game. I would go so far as saying that it cripples them if that element is taken away.
I believe that spy addon is an unfair in the aspect that it takes no skill any longer …
SPY is a legal addon that should stay legal, but garner no respect from the community.
I think the fact that people have to use it to feel safe from rogues is more telling of the type of player than the addon itself.
I’ve been trying to think of how Blizzard can solve the problem of FP camping and Spy.
Essentially the problem as I see it is this:
You land from FP and die as an honorless target.
You rez, and can’t get away from spy, dying, granting honor to the campers.
Rinse and Repeat.
Here are some solutions I’ve thought of, (excluding faction queues to fix the current imbalance):
(Spy) Disable combat logs for the opposing faction when they are not in combat with you.
(FP Camping) If you die an honor…
Spy parses the combat log for actions performed by enemy players.
Apply a conditional filter to the events sent to combat log. Do not send the events to combat log about enemy players unless you’re in combat with them.
Apply this filter to all the events player receives about enemy players.
Algorithm of determining if you’re in combat with someone isn’t that hard too. I guess you already have it implemented in many places (for example when system decides whether you should be granted honorabl…
Was it around during vanilla (04-06)? If so keep it if not get rid of it.
Edit:
So the answer is that there were similar add ons back in vanilla, however they performed differently by having less detectable features than what Spy in 2019 has.
Therefore, it needs to be gone.
Using it gives stealthed players coordinates. This can be used with TomTom to mark your mini map of the stealthed players last known location.
Warlocks/hunters are able to target a stealthed player, and without the stealthed player being visible send in their pet to attack.
Using player interation, you can target a stealthed player and auto run to their last known location.
The addon does not only simply parse combat logs to detect players, but also detects changes to player auras, th…
Spy is a great addon. There is a reason it’s so immensely popular, people love it. It really makes world PvP a much easier and more enjoyable experience.
Rogue tries to sneak up on you? Nope. Spy notification, pop perception, death coil. Threat eliminated. Rogues were too overpowered anyway, Spy balances things out. Blizzard should make Spy a standard UI element just like how they have done with other popular addons. It would greatly benefit the world PvP scene since rogues are too overpowered …
Spy clearly automates part of the game. Why are people using it not being banned? It automatically uses /tar and pulls a name from the event log, clearly against tos.
Neither problem I have about spy deals with stealth so stop commenting that I’m crying. The two problems I have with spy are:
You can use it to find someone’s direct location even if the player is too far away for the game client to visualize them on your screen. If you are running North for example and someone pings on the add…
Those who use Spy have a competitive advantage over those who don’t use it. So is the new norm to now have Spy downloaded by default?
I personally don’t use it but was in a group full of people who had it. Definitely gave me a competitive edge.
These two, Spy & NameplateCCnTrinkets, are the worst offenders I’ve seen so far for PvP.
THE ADDON
Reads combat log, displays who’s nearby. Was in vanilla, but not as good nor as prominent.
PvP DEGENERACY:
The honour system benefits degenerate behaviour, so people grinding honour purposefully do degenerate PvP to min/max the honour gained, ergo ganking (unfair PvP advantage) pretty much every time all the time, and avoiding ganks such as a 5 man avoiding a 6 man group and ganking a 4 man group etc.
WHAT THIS HAS TO DO WITH SPY:
This degenerate behaviour is further re-inforced b…
I love ganking unaware players. Its the entire reason i made a rogue. Spy lets lazy players know that im around. Thus making ganking impossible. If you the player didnt see or hear me go stealth then you shouldn’t know that im there. I do not care if this type of addon was available during vanilla or not. From a game play perspective its aweful. What is the point of playing a stealth class if you cant gank. I may as well have a bell on my neck.
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It is as close to cheating as one can get. I literally tells you when an approaching opponent is near. I mean if we wanted a play a game that doesn’t require brain cells to be good wouldn’t we all be playing Fortnite? The Spy addon goes far beyond what any other addon does by completely negating some aspects of the game, like the need to be aware of one’s surroundings without automation. P.S sorry I am not very articulate, I wish i could get my points out clearer,
As we all know, everyone in Classic is using Spy right now. Whether you like it or not, this add-on is a must-have. Otherwise, you are putting yourself at a huge disadvantage in world PvP, and in future Battle Grounds. Here are a few of the reasons why the Addon should be banned, or be bannable for using.
Ganking is no longer an element of surprise. Obviously, getting ganked is annoying, but its part of the game. Spy completely takes away the element of surprise in a lot of situations. Some m…
-Firstly, Spy is not against TOS. While I would like it completely broken, breaking Spy would break other actual ethical addons since it uses the combat log. I suggest removing Stealth from combat logging in the game itself if this is a reasonable compromise.
This add-on has created many situations where It is actually preferable to not stealth as it alerts everyone in range, not stealthing will not. It goes without saying you still need to be “found”. Should not using a core class ability beca…
Title says it all, if you think it should be in the game you are just bad at PvP.
Using addons like this should be considered similar to botting.
This addon removes the element of surprise in PvP which is not trivial and also negates certain class mechanics (hunter/druid track humanoid).
Waa waa waa I died in pvp, lifes hard, I’m quitting. Spy addon is destroying my mind.
It’s rough out there I know I’m still leveling with limited play time. It’s hard, it’s infuriating, it’s exciting, it’s rewarding, it’s a game, it’s only for a limited time, it’s time to harden up and stop sooking. Enjoy it while it’s here and if not relish in the fact you know it will die down by bg’s release. Who cares go level an alt of PVE server if it’s that bad.
The spy addon doesn’t help other then al…
It’s like sports and steroids, you have to use it if your enemy is using it. That said, it’s pretty lame. @blizzard any movement on this?
The Spy Classic addon has been used for numerous nefarious purposes by others, and it’s extremely widespread. Gank squads have been using it en mass in order to locate lowbies from literally hundreds of yards away when they otherwise would never have been noticed. City raids have been completely stopped in their tracks since warlocks wanting to try and sneak summon people into the city in order to get past the chokepoint can’t do that anymore. Any possibility of using the element of surprise in …
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How many of those threads do you think are OP’s?
And as a result of folks being vocal: