Great! It gives evidence to open things up more. Something the community has requested for years now.
Exactly, NPCs usually get special treatment. So given that none of us have proof of anything and are really at Blizz’s mercy to realize that it helps them in regard to what they’ve been trying to accomplish.
They’ve stated even in the recent deep dive that they’ve been looking at ways to instill fantasy among players. To allow them to present their character how they want. So this is all very much in that same vein.
You said it yourself there. The default option for non-attackable NPC’s is to have mana, and they went out of the way to remove the mana bar. This doesn’t necessarily indicate anything, but if it did, it would be NO to Paladin, and YES to Warrior - or do we disagree?
I’ve explained that comment like 6 times. Got a problem with it? That’s on you. And it was in reply to two very rude comments that pinged me to this thread. One accusing me of pushing an agenda and the other who clearly didn’t even read my thread, obviously just skimmed the combos I listed.
I am entitled to post snarky jokes in response to being attacked.
But… it’s not.
Danessa (the repair vendor) in the Rift has no mana. (You know, implying she’s a warrior)
Alleria and Locus-Walker have Energy.
Many NPCs in the Dark Iron city have no mana.
Etc.
But they are in game. Moreso than void elf paladins which literary don’t exist.
That’s nice but you’re still acting like you know lore and have the authority to decide which suggestions are and aren’t valid because of your Anti-Belf bias.
You haven’t proved that none survived.
When Illidan was defeated and his forces were also defeated there were few if any DHs left.
And yet Blizzard found a way to bring in Demon Hunters when they wanted to.
And yet you are asking for Void Elf Paladins (paladins use the light/holy by definition) when there are absolutely no NPCs that are Void Elf Paladins. Not a single one. None.
You can’t make one nonsense suggestion and expect to have your clear and obvious bias pointed out when you maliciously omit another that has been requested for years.
This literally means nothing. At all.
I’m tired of you High Elf fans trying to harm Blood Elves.
You are though. The helfer bias shines bright. You’re reaching into the void of the universe to justify velf paladins while denying belf druids.
For the record I’m even opposed to belf druids myself but I think you’re being quite ridiculous if you are going to advocate for velf pallies while saying no to belf druids rofl.
Every single riftblade in Telogrus Rift is more than a single boss we kill.
No, I am not acting as an authority. However, if I don’t agree with something, I’m not going to post it. That’s my right. Just like it’s your right to campaign for Blood Elf Druids.
Like if someone tried to get Draenei Warlocks because there’s NPCs that were in WoD, I’d be against it - because that’s counter to the entire backstory of the race.
And you haven’t proved any have.
Tauren Paladins use power from An’she and Zandalari from a Loa. The Tauren do occasionally refer to it as the Light, but the Zandalari don’t. So no, by definition, they do not.
It means literally everything.
I’m putting this thread on ignore, thanks to Zandrae. Everything I say just goes in one ear and out the other. Not interesting in trying to talk to you.
What makes this so awful is at least people have been able to spin Blood Elf Druids and make it make sense, I have yet to have anyone make a legit case or even a point for Void Elf Paladins outside of that they want it or because Blood Elves have it.
I thought it was when they threatened BE fans that if we continue taking issue w their bias takes when they talk about customization they’ll leave BEs out all together.
First, you should add classes for every race gnomes included.
Second, belf shaman is great but belf druid has just as much reason to be on there as velf paladin.
You’re ignoring us all for the actions of a few?
Spite just makes you seem less like you’re genuine in your posts.
Whether you like it or not there is lore and backing for Blood Elves to have druid. Especially if your choice for “lore” for void elves to have paladins is the Riftblades.
And seriously. Every race should be included in class additions if you’re going to do it at all.
Clearly, and cannot take criticisms even from more calm members… Like they lost it over the actions of one or two people so none of us matter?
That’s not your job on the CC. It’s not supposed to work like posting in general chat. You are a representative of the community. That is why it is called the Community Council. Not the Maizou Council.
You clearly are acting as an authority. If you weren’t you wouldn’t have decided to deem certain requests invalid.
You are not going to post it because you hate Blood Elves and want to hurt us however you can.
This is a fallacy. You make a claim, the burden of proof is on you, not me, to back up your claim.
So get to it.
Uh huh.
And yet their magic school is holy regardless.
It means nothing.
It’s a fallacy.
If it’s a paladin, it uses mana. < - True
Therefore if it uses mana it is a paladin < - False
If a mage uses mana, it’s a paladin.
This doesn’t work.
I could say the same about you.
It’s really clear that you have an Alliance and especially Anti-Bloof Elf bias.
You are not acting on good faith or being a good representative of the community. You can’t seem to put aside your hate of Blood Elves even when actively acting as a community voice. And the threats of acting out of spite are uncool.
Yeah, I think that’s why though that Blizz doesn’t just take feedback from them. They know the community and how it is. Feedback still matters and there was a recent hire that had posted here months ago that was really into the concept of Belf Druids.
So just keep making suggestions and laying out concepts. I’m sure they’ll still see it. It might not happen right away, but I see in expacs to come it become a theme to knock down a lot more of the customization limitations in the game.
Yeah you’re right. It just gets so demoralizing. You put effort and work into something and Blizzard never responds, rarely shares any info on what they’re doing for any of this and then the CC members seem to be off doing their own thing or choosing quasi-forum politics to make their posts… flipping their lids at the earliest provocation.
I’m gonna repost my customizations list again.
Still working on a new draft of it for better flow and organization.
Blood Elf Customization List
Still a work in progress…
Amber eyes, orange eyes, red eyes, pink eyes and black eyes. Also teals and between green and gold colors to represent our eyes shifting from green to blue or gold. (bonus if there is one for green to purple) Phoenix eyes as well.
Fully encompassed blind options… Including half blind options that actually hits every color for both sides.
Several body types for Blood Elves.
Depending how Blizzard chooses to do it I’d like to either see San’layn or Dark Rangers be represented as well… though my preferred is with San’layn as their own AR and Dark Rangers as customization (or a class) for blood elves.
Felblood Elves represented through customizations we saw on them in TBC.
Updated Paladin mount for Blood Elves using either a Hawkstrider or Courser with armor themed on the Blood Knights.
Druid: Between the Botanists of the Botanica the closeness of Tauren and troll druids and the Farstriders closeness with nature alone Druids make a good potential class for Blood Elves.
Shaman: Though only one individual there is already at least one thalassian studying the elements. This could easily be expanded out. (I suspect the Farstriders wouldn’t mind the help of shaman.)