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This thread is to discuss the possibility of playable Sethrak for the Alliance, as well as to talk about how generally awesome they are. I do not know if showing support for them as a playable race will play a part in Blizzard's decision regarding Alliance allied races... But it can't hurt either.
Below I am going to be going through a bit of what we know about them, some FAQs and some links to some interesting Sethrak related stuff. Keep in mind what has been datamined is few and far between and is subject to change. I will update this thread with any new information I find or am provided. Please feel free to share any Sethrak related findings in this thread!
Please keep things civil and adhere to the ToS because I do not want to see this thread 404'd
Also be aware there will most likely be spoilers in this thread, especially about Vol'dun.
What do we know about Sethrak so far?
The Sethrak are a bipedal race of Cobra-like people living in Vol'dun. Their empire seems heavily influenced by ancient Egypt. Their entire role in Battle for Azeroth is not entirely known but what we do know is that there are two different groups of Sethrak.
The Sethrak led by 'Korthek' are an evil group that enslave Vulpera and have turned away from their Loa religion and seem only interested in expanding their empire and turning everything into a sandy desert because that is what they are most comfortable with.
Another group of Sethrak led by a Sethrak named 'Vorrik' have abandoned Korthek's group and stand against him. These Sethrak still closely follow their Loa religion and refer to Korthek's group as 'The Faithless.' Vorrik and his group are trying to keep old god servants locked away while Korthek's group works to unleash it. Part of the story revolving around Vorrik is finding keys used to keep the old god servant locked up, one of these keys is found by an Alliance scout.
The War Campaign
While the Horde helps Vorrik through the Vulpera it is actually The Alliance who find him first and save him from The Faithless's poison near the Sethrak main city. It is then that Vorrik promises to repay them for their kindness. Vorrik also decides to hide his key directly with the Alliance, where as in the Horde version the key was found among some ruins.
The Alliance commander is pleased with the prospect of positive relationships with Vorrik's Sethrak.
"you did well in befriending the local population. This likely won't be the last time we'll have to depend upon them."
An important thing to note in this story is that (Spoilers ahead) Vorrik entrusts the Horde to guard the keys to which they fail quite miserably. The Keys are stolen and Serrik, Vorrik's friend and comrade, is killed. Mythrax is then successfully summoned by the enemy. It is not yet known how Vorrik will react to this, with any luck he will be angry at the Horde, at least enough to trust the Alliance a bit more.
We hope to see more positive interactions between The Alliance and Vorrik's Sethrak during the second part of the War Campaign.
Below is quest text you are given when after finding Vorrik.
You must believe me when I say that I mean you no harm.
I am a follower of Sethraliss, like my people before me.
The other sethrak you have encountered in Vol'dun have long abandoned the ways of Sethraliss.
The faithless seek to destroy us just as they do your kind.
Back then, Korthek and I led our people in worship to Sethraliss together.
Our most sacred site was the adytum, hidden away in the hills.
But the Faithless have no need for it anymore. It's been abandoned for generations.
It will be a safe and fitting place to start our- Wait... Is that vulpera down there?
I will update this section as more information comes out.
Why would Sethrak join The Alliance? They look like a Horde race
While it is true the Sethrak would be an unprecedented and unique race among the Alliance that is precisely why we think they would be perfect. Elves and varying degrees of humans are alright but it is about time the Alliance gets something unique... Something cool, something to stir things up a bit. Sethrak are just different enough to be a total breath of fresh air while still maintaining that Alliance sense of dignity, duty, honor and above all, faith.
Keep in mind The Alliance is not all about 'The Light' but welcomes many followers of different beliefs, backgrounds and magical what have you. Sethrak would be different, but that is a good thing.
We also believe that Sethrak would be the ideal paring with Vulpera. The Vulpera are far more hinted at at being an allied race for The Horde at this point and the Sethrak directly tie in with their lore and vice versa. These two races seem made for each other, to counter each other. To have one without the other seems like a wasted opportunity.
we know that the Alliance have a port in Vol'dun conveniently placed right beside the Sethrak. It would be wise of the Alliance to make an ally with a race familiar with the area, if they hope to stand a chance against The Horde and the Zandalari trolls.
Also it would bring Loa into The Alliance and that would just be awesome!
What about helmets? Helmets will look stupid!
To this I would say you are right. Most helmets are going to look really dumb on Sethrak. But guess what? They look quite bad on every other anthropomorphic race in this game as well as some of the humany races. Helms make Draenei appear bald, they make a Dwarf's beard disappear, they clip into Troll tusks and look laughably bad on Worgen and Tauren most of the time.
We Sethrak enthusiasts accept this as just the reality of the game. We do not care if they look bad as we know there is an option for transmog and to turn off helms completely. It is not a big deal.
In terms of fitting it on their model it probably is not as hard as you might imagine. The Sethrak frill is located along their neck, not on their heads as a cobra IRL is. The Sethrak head is really not anymore wide than a Tauren's is. Like I said, helmets will look bad most of the time, but that is a small price to pay.
A visual example of how helmets may look on Sethrak, compared to other races who notoriously do not wear helmets very well. Made by Gado from Khaz'Goroth
Allied races use other race's rigs. Sethrak are too unique to be an allied race
The Sethrak use female Worgen rigging as well as a mixture of animations from other races. It is disguised really well but they are indeed borrowed material same as any other allied race. Blizzard had also said using this allied race system will more easily allow them to add races unique to BfA. We feel that it is only fair if The Horde gets Vulpera, a brand new race to BfA, that The Alliance deserves something brand new and unique as well with Sethrak.
Sethrak can't wear playable armor and have no female models
Yes, this is the big one. Right now the Sethrak can not wear playable character armor very well. However I will point out that that could change at any point between now and anywhere in BfA. Vulpera were not anywhere near player quality when they were first shown off and now look at them. We are hoping for the same updates to happen for Sethrak.
There is a model for the Sethrak Loa that is confirmed female though does not have many differences. Most people feel like the Sethrak do not need too much sexual dimorphism because well... They're sneks? Some unique male/female colors and some other feminine qualities would probably be enough for Sethrak. My own personal idea for female Sethrak was Egyptian inspired eyeliner. Think Cleopatra.
Interestingly Sethrak were given player gear geosets on their models in one of he beta builds for tabards. They did not work correctly and were removed in a later build. There are many theories as to why this was done, but there's no real concrete answer to that question.
We keep a very close eye on all Alpha builds and while we do know datamining info is not a for sure thing, we hope to see more positive signs for playable Sethrak soon!
In beta right now there are Sethrak NPCs who do have female voices. However they still use the same model as the male Sethrak,which includes wearing masculine looking clothing. We hope that this is a placeholder and that those with the female voice will be updated with female models, or else it just feel very awkward.
A big part of being playable is having customization. From what we can tell so far the most obvious customization for Sethrak is skin color, piercings on their hoods and tail decorations. There are literally thousands of snakes Blizzard could use as references for colors and patterns and the tail decorations are very unique and pretty as well. I also believe faces would be important which they also have many snakes to choose from as inspiration.
Here is some art of possible male and female Sethrak options made by someone in the Sethrak discord, which I have gotten permission to use.
Videos, gifs and pics
Now for some fun stuff!
Korthrek meeting with Troll
The Story of Vol'dun
Female Sethrak voice overs
Click View in 3D if it does not automatically pop up
Concept art and models
Please join us for Vulpera and Sethrak Discussions in 'The Vulpera Hype Caravan' Discord. While it is focused on Vulpera most of us are under the belief one goes with the other and we are on the same team. We post recently datamined information on both races and discuss among ourselves in a chilled out environment. All are welcome.
If you are looking for more Sethrak related discussion check out the Support our Sethrak Discord.