We have been gaslighted the whole time

[Trando-11488]

“nObOdY cArEd AbOuT dOuBlE sHiEld”

Doomfist is so strong because of double shield, and double shield is so strong because of power creep

As the title says. Stop blaming Doomfist for his prevalence right now. I definitely think he’s the most unfun and frustrating hero to play against for me personally, and I’m a Moira main, so I can’t imagine what Zen mains feel about him, however he’s only played because he’s literally the only DPS hero who can currently ignore the double shields completely to deal most of his damage. Stop blaming Orisa for her prevalence in the double shield meta. What do shields do? They block damage. So why …

We need more shield stealers against double shield

Double shield is powerful and can be countered with three different kinds of characters: -shield ignorers. Like ball, winston or doomfist. They don’t care if there is no shield, one should or two shields. -shield breakers, like junkrat, bastion. These characters melt shields. One shield is very weak to stop them, but two shields can do something to stop them. So, in some way, shield breakers are encouraging double shield… -shield stealers, like symmetra. These characters become stronger with …

Shooting shields - double shield meta

will we gate any balance patch, or we have to shoot double shields nonstop till OW2 comes out? massive fun. just try to nerf them on experimental. even though it doesnt go live, we can play it for a week or two.

I dont get double shield

Contenders doesn’t even run it a lot of the time, they go for ball? How isn’t this the meta? GM Orisa and Rein still have relatively low pickrates compared to Ball and Hog so how is Double shield the meta? Rein just got buffed and people are saying that Double shield will still be meta because they’ll spam him out? Which there is so many problems with. Rein can’t be spammed out everywhere. Examples include King’s row second point and Oasis University…etc This change will make Rein better tha…

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/double-shield-is-meta-i-literally-called-it-heres-how-to-fix-it/400127

Dev said they are targeting double shield in next experimental

dev said they are targeting double shield in next experimental on reddit i wonder what tank got nerfed? orisa? sigma? or both or maybe its rebalance? sigma less shield? more damage? orisa more shield? less fortify?

Imagine If there was a hero who could counter double shield

Now this might sound crazy but imagine a hero who could somehow benefit from there being more barriers. Maybe they could do something like gain more ammo or do more dmg from shooting shields? Imagine if they had some kind of secondary ability that could go through barriers completely. And this might be really op but imagine if they had some way to teleport their entire team through barriers??? This is just a silly hero concept that the devs will probably never see but I think this could be a pre…

After OW2, double shield = insta-leave

Just can’t face it any more. Never liked to face it before but would go through the motions. But now I just can’t be bothered shooting 2 shields for 5+ minutes in QP. Especially when it’s Rein+Sig which is the most common at my level. OW2 showed how crappy those games are. I doubt I can ever play a game against double shield again, ever.

Blizzard has been pushing the game towards double shield for a long time

Constant nerfs to heroes who can break barriers/no buffs to those characters (Sombra, Symmetra,) Nerfs to heroes that are strong against grouped team comps (Junkrat, Mei) Lack of supports that incentivize split team comps (seriously, no support actually works better with split teams compared to grouped ones) Removal of abilities that can pierce barriers (sym orbs) No Character with barrier piercing ability has an ultimate that can affect enemies behind barriers (Edit: moira ult)

You can't simultaneously oppose Doomfist and Double Shield

Hot take: You cannot simultaneously support nerfing Doomfist and changing the Double Shield meta (two popular opinions) while Doomfist counters Double Shield

Ok, double shield is meta again

I’m seeing double shield in like 75% of games at this point. It’s just too easy and powerful of a strategy to use. Pretty much whenever a team is losing they go to double shield, usually also with bastion and sym/torb. Double shield made me quit this game back when it was meta after sigma’s release and it is killing the fun of the game once again. Blizz, there’s a really easy fix. Just make it so you can only select one shield tank. It’s so simple. Once a shield tank is selected, the others bec…

The double shield problem

Its been the dominant meta since season 18, it is now season 25 Don’t powercreep your way out of this like you have with prior metas or create new gamerules, fix the keystone characters to not do multiple jobs simultaneously so that other heroes can be effectively ran Double shield has been meta since august of 2019… that is literally 16 months, with only 2 brief intermissions in seasons 21 and 24 for just a few weeks PLEASE let overwatch be fun again, let tank players play actually engaging …

Double shields should be viable

Now listen, lower your pitchforks, double shields should be viable as a comp, especially in maps like havana, and junkertown. As in, double shields should exist to counter snipers and what not, as 90% of the roster has no valid counter play to them, and double shields made brawling 100% more fun in havana, so existence of it is valid. The thing is, having a comp dominate on every map shouldnt happen, and with the right changes, double shields could co-exist with other comps, its not “either OP…

IDK how many times it needs to be said, double shield is because of RANGE

Not the shields. Double shield does NOT exist because Orisa and Sigma have good shields. If that was the case, we would have had Rein / Orisa double shields before Sigma existed, and we didn’t. Double shield exists because of what the tanks can do while their shields are deployed and with range. Nerfing their shields and buffing their other stuff is exactly how you reinforce double shield, not kill it. People are going to kneejerk cry at this but to ensure double shield isn’t a go-to comp you…

Just ban double shield already

Look, we can all see this is going to end with Sigma, Orisa, or Baptiste being ruined again. If double barrier isn’t supposed to be played just rule it out and get it over with. I like Orisa and Sigma and Baptiste and I don’t want most or all of them to be garbage because pro players can stack them together and ruin the game. Just make a rule… if you play Orisa you literally cannot pick Sigma (a more fair manner might also include Reinhardt and make all three mutually exclusive). Greyed out. T…

Nerf double shield before the game dies even more

Yikes… how does this keep happening without anything being done. Insanity.

(Bonus points for claiming the game was dead 2 years ago)

Why is double shields even allowed to be viable

Nobody wants to play Sigma or Orisa. Nobody wants to play against Sigma or Orisa. Very few heroes are at all playable against Sigma and Orisa. This madness needs to end.

Double Shield Meta

Despite shield nerfs, it’s back. Am I playing an FPS where I play against people or am I just shooting into a wall? The latter feels more prevalent with this meta.

A Hero to combat Double Shield

Don’t really know what’s meta, I heard it’s doub shield. In a topic I made today I asked for random hero ideas and I thought of an evolving hero with a charge system ult. Though I don’t think it will be a very good thing to evolve heroes so we’re just gonna say for now that it’s a hero with a piercing primary fire and an ability that lets teammates also do the same partially.

Nerf double shield again

I can’t stand a second year of Orisa Sigma stacking shields. Please, I know you’re working on OW2, but all you need to do for the time being is nerf double shield. Long queues and double shield meta are the reason people aren’t having fun and quitting. So please, I’m not asking for a Sigma rework for now, but nerf the shields more and be more aggressive when balancing stuff like this.

Nerfing Rein will bring back double shield

I used to be part of the “Reinhardt should be nerfed” crowd until this week. When you look at pickrates this week, Orisa and Sigma are being picked together again. If you nerf Rein and take him out of the equation, we will be back in double shield meta. Why is this? Sigma and Orisa both are terrible main tanks. But when you put them together, there’s enough shielding to protect the team. Remember: Orisa’s shield (600 health) and Sigma’s shield (900 health) combined is 1500 shield health, just 1…

Blame the Nerf/Buff Cycle for Double Shield

Most players hate double shield. Here’s why we’re there again- Dive was before double shield. During this time we saw nerfs to Echo, Ball, and hitscan. It’s not that hitscan were defining the meta, but any time they get nerfed, we see an increase in projectile heroes (Ana, Zen, Hanzo, Pharah). Projectile heroes are notorious for their burst damage potential and lack of dmg falloff. As always, tanks are the most abused by projectile heroes. And any time burst damage is too high, we see tank pla…

Why Does Everyone Hate Double Shield?

I’d understand why DPS mains might be disappointed by the GOATS era, but why do people hate the Double Shield meta so much? I honestly found it lots of fun to play, especially since cycling cooldowns and shields was so important. Keep in mind that I am a Sigma main (since release), and loved to play Orisa before Sigma was released. I was also new to the game and hovered around low plat, so I don’t exactly represent High ELO. I guess I’m the only one who really enjoyed that meta? What are your …

Definitive Proof that Double Shield is Worst Meta Ever!

Let’s compare Double Shield to the 2 most pervasive meta in the history of Overwatch, Dive and GOATs. Dive: Rarely seen in low ranks because everyone hates Winston. Also people aren’t in Voice Chat a lot. Also even if they are both of the above, GETTING 2 PEOPLE TO SIMULTANEOUSLY ATTACK A DISCORDED TARGET is unlikely, because no one does that. Bad time for immobile heroes. GOATs: Never seen in low ranks. People in general are addicted to DPS heroes. Also most people probably didn’t even know w…

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/nerfing-shields-makes-double-shields-more-meta/428147

Double shield happened because of Sigma

Orisa was fine the way she was, she had some good synergy with Hog and the hook pull combo. Then you added Sigma, who obviously has way to much damage even for his “short” range and moving shield. And once they found out the insane shield stack double shield became a thing. Sigma is the problem in double shield. He needs changes. I really want him to be a good viable shield tank, maybe they should give him more range but less damage and more shield health, something to make his tanky enough t…

Save the shields, but not the double shield

since changing the numbers has led to the disgrace of tank shields (cooldown, HP and gap), perhaps the time has really come to analyze in which situations the shields become useless despite there being 2-3 in a team. if the beams are a way to overcome the matrix of sigma and D.va, we start to select some bullets of the game that “cross” the barriers? or that the barriers applied in the vicinity add up in one but begin to have a faster expiration in summoning? (inspiration at zero hour) maybe a…

The Baptiste buff probably just brought back Double Shield

It was already a comp that was starting to see a lot of play, so you buff the Support that made it strong again? Well, enjoy Double Shield round 3…

So double shield is clearly the problem rn

My dps queue times are sky rocketing. It happened first in comp and now it has bled over into QP. My dps queues in QP are averaging 9 minutes now… At the same time I’m getting double shield in all my comp games and in a large number of my QP games too. I don’t want to play Rein. I don’t want to play Orisa (although I used to). I’m ok with playing Sigma but I’m not that interested in the hero to queue up for tank regularly. As a result people are fleeing from the tank role and I don’t blame the…

Stop Posting About Double Shield

Double shield is played about 20-30% of the time a great balance in the game and balance is perfect rn (Not brig)

An idea to help the sigma + double shield problem

Overall, I actually think the idea of double shield is not a bad one as long as it is done right, the problem is that it’s so unfun to play against because of high health shields. Sigma is an off tank with a good shield, which makes it incredibly unfun to fight. An off tank with a shield is fine, but the health needs to be far lower so you don’t have to be breaking barriers 24/7. So here are my proposed changes: Sigma Experimental barrier: Recall cooldown removed Health reduced from 700 to…

Double Shield Meta

As a Main tank player, I’d like to talk Double Shield. To start off, I think thanks to role queue the game is better and more fun to play than it ever has been and the developer team deserve immense credit for giving us this. That said, balance is always going to be a topic of discussion because I believe a game like overwatch can never be fully balanced in terms of equal pick rate etc etc. There will always be a meta. So, accepting that, let’s move on. So the question is - why do we have a d…

Suggestion: How to eliminate double shield

Its my first post here, I dont know how these things work or if anything similar has been posted before. My suggestion is that when a tank selects a shield tank from the hero selection screen (Rein, Sigma, Orisa), then the other tank will not be able to select one of those heroes and will be forced to play off-tank or winston. With this change the only viable tank comps will be: shield + offtank or 2 offtanks. I can’t see how that is going be bad for the game or not fun to play or play agains…

Need I go on and add to this wall of historic context to combat the gaslighting?