PvP Rewards and Item Levels

We’ve seen several questions recently about how PvP progression will look over the next few weeks, and we have answers.

First and foremost, Honor is the new currency that was introduced with the Shadowlands Pre-patch. Players can earn Honor from honorable kills, Battlegrounds, Epic Battlegrounds, skirmishes, Arenas, and Rated Battlegrounds. Honor can be spent to purchase gear from Purveryor Zo’kuul in Oribos. This gear can be upgraded by Agressor Zo’dash for Honor. The upper limit of this kind of upgrade is determined by your Renown level, and players can hold a maximum of 15000 Honor.

Conquest is an additional PvP currency. Players can earn Conquest from Battlegrounds, Epic Battlegrounds, Arenas, and Rated Battlegrounds. Players can spend Conquest to purchase gear from Zo’sorg in Oribos. This gear can be upgraded by Agressor Zo’dash for Honor. The upper limit of this upgrade is determined by your current highest rating bracket in Arenas or Rated Battlegrounds:

Rating item-level
Unranked 200
Combatant 207
Challenger 213
Rival 220
Duelist 226

There is a cap on how much Conquest can be earned during a season. This cap increases by 550 each week. This means that during week 1, the cap is 550. During week 2, the cap is 1100.

  • If you earn 550 Conquest during week 1, you will then be able to earn 550 Conquest during week 2.
  • If you earn no Conquest during week 1, you will then be able to earn 1100 Conquest during week 2.
  • If you earn 400 Conquest during week 1, you will then be able to earn 700 Conquest during week 2.

Finally, you should not have to wait for Conduit upgrades. Conduits appear at higher rank on the vendor automatically when your rating increases.

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I don’t like this, let me spam Conquest man. This is enough for like 2 pieces of gear. Also fix Rogues, Priests, Hunters, and Ret

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After like a month you’ll be getting 2-3 pieces a week?

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People with weekly raid lockouts that have no catch up mechanic weep bitter tears to hear that.

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Argueably you’ll get gear funneled to you and there is much more loot that drops.

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There’s still the issue of balance in general for people who PvP, not sure how much DPS is lost Vs having the secondary stat on gear.

Why not simply put 2 secondaries on PvP, with versatility that activates in PvP zones/in PvP combat? With the stats aimed to be ~5-10% behind equivalent PvE gear?

And requiring the trinkets takes away a lot of damage for people wearing PvP gear who do the daily PvE activities, the set bonus could easily be on rings instead?

Also having easily customized crafted PvP gear we simply level up with honor or conquest would be a superior system IMO. It also allows for set bonuses to balance out classes and fix issues easily.

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So you can’t buy conquest gear the first week? Why? So raiders can roflstomp pvpers and be permanently ahead?

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Yes lol /10char

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Of course.

PvPers are second class players.

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This is actually a great system. Thank you Blizz.

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So you can M+ spam for trinkets at 203ilvl in just the first week alone, but you need to wait 3+ weeks to get a 200ilvl trinket from the PvP vendor? Why not just timegate the ilvl upgrades and let people farm conquest for the 200ilvl vendor items, and unlock higher ilvls as they’re unlocked for other content?

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LOL pve rules again thanks for the pointless vendors.

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It would not be good if you could spam conquest forever. You’d be BiS in 1 week, whats the point of M+ and raids then? Mythic raids only drop 3 items for 20 people now that means killing all 10 on mythic which will take a while to be able to do will only net you 1.5items a week. Conquest gear gets you about 0.75 items a week, but can be achieved from week 1.

Also remember if you only pvp you get another item each week from weekly chest. So on Avg you will get 2 items a week or so, and have a full set in 8 weeks, there is no more titanforging so it will be your best gear till next season.

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Hey Kaivax,

Is it possible when later down the line we no longer need honor currency because we have all of our gear upgraded or are in full conquest, could you have an exchange for Honor to Marks of Honor say 100 honor to buy 1 Mark of Honor?

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You’ll be okay

Any plans to give us a 233 weapon for 2.4 or something from pvp like mythic raiders do from last 2 bosses?

Edit: 550 per week seems VERY LOW, please increase to 800 to 1000

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Anyone who does an M+2 is going to get a guaranteed 200 piece at the end of the week. I’m disappointed, frankly.

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if 4 item levels on a single slot is the only thing holding you back from beating people for a whole week, there is a lot wrong there and I can tell you for a fact the return of vendors and pvp currency is far from the reason.

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In the same way that if you don’t play for a few months you can spam pvp and get gear quickly. We can’t gear funnel out the gate unless you do some crazy method level prepping by buying out several servers worth of mats to artificially inflate ilevel.

are you a GM or an MVP on alt character?

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