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Factually, the recent set of two changes was a buff, not a revert

Your points have already been argued, and you still have yet to prove to me where that statement was written in the dev notes. So… Were you able to point out where this was said in the dev notes we’ve discussed previously, as you have claimed? :blush:


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As I see it, there is a difference between proving a point and having anther accept that it has been proven

I still dont understand the relevance of a blush emoticon in the context of this discussion

Saying “As you see it,” is giving your opinion. While I respect your views, it still doesn’t prove your point. I’m asking for proof to back up your claims of what the dev’s said as being “fact”, so I am sorry, but I’m afraid that isn’t answering my question. So allow me to repeat. :slight_smile:

Was this stated in the dev notes, as you’ve claimed? Yes or No? If yes, please quote where in the passage they say “this is a buff, not a revert.” Still waiting on the evidence. :blush:


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a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls
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As I have said, I have already provided the information

There is an old expression about leading a horse to water.

Sorry, but I am going to have to disagree there.

You made the claim that the devs stated that the last set of changes “was a buff, and not a revert”. I have asked you for proof of this, and your answer is “Look it up.” I look it up, and ask where they have made this statement. And now you are responding with platitudes, and avoiding the question by saying “I already done so.” Without being able to back up your claims, provide evidence, or give an explanation to said statements.

So unfortunately, so far you have not done anything to prove that the devs did in fact say “This is a buff, not a revert”, regarding the most recent Mercy changes, and have not disproven my claim that “it is actually both, not one or the other.”

And once again you have failed to answer my question. So I suppose I shall ask for a third time.

You made the claim that the devs stated that these changes for Mercy was a “Buff, not a revert.” And you are trying to state that this is “factual”. So I humbly ask you once again, to allow you defend your case and not prove that you are merely giving an opinion as if it’s fact:

Is the statement “This is a buff, not a revert” anywhere in the developer notes as you’ve claimed? Yes or No? :blush:


~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls
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Factually, the information being requested has been provided

To extend the old expression, the horse is at the stream

I remain confused as to the relevance of the blush emoticon in this discussion

And with that, I believe it’s fair to say that you have no proof of your claims, and are repeating the same answer, due to not having any evidence to back up your opinion to make it “factual”, or anything else constructive to add to our little discussion in the form of a rebuttal. :smiley:

Due to this, I have unfortunately been given no choice but to believe that you merely thought they said “This is a buff, not a revert”, to push your agenda, but when asked for proof, is not able to defend your case. It has been made quite clear that such a statement has never been made in the developer notes, and any assumptions that they have are just that, assumptions.

Therefore, I suppose this discussion is over, and I rest my case. But hey! Feel free to give any closing thoughts, this will be my last reply to you (I believe it’s been going on for quite enough anyway!). If you think this is a buff and not a revert. That is totally fine. I believe that it is both a buff & a revert, so we are going to just have to agree to disagree and leave it at that. Nonetheless, thanks for projecting your opinion, I wish you well in your endeavors, and I hope you have a great rest of your day! :blush:


~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls
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I respectfully disagree with all of the above

Factually, the information is there

I still do not understand why a blush emoticon is relevant to this conversation

I believe I understand the meaning of the blush emoticon, in this particular case

Looking at our own thread history, I agree. We should probably not go down that rabbit hole. :blush:


~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls
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60 hp/s
Reduce weapon switching time
Keep Bunny Hop
Make Resurrection her ult again, but make it LOS dependent.

do you not have a life outside of poop-posting about mercy every week

week in, week out, i have seen you post a topic like this to no avail. you ignore facts and statements presented from the devs, you dig in your heels, and you act smarmy and condescending like a petulent, delusional teenager.

have you ever just stopped and looked at yourself, wondered “Why am I posting this again?”, or “What am I doing with my life?”, or even “Maybe I should stop this, and go outside and breathe the air while it’s still breathable”.

I sort of envy you, RevertMercy. You ignore the world burning down around you and you keep on trucking for something you’re never going to get. It’s admirable, in its own way. In its own sad, sad way.

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I don’t think you win any points by taking what was said out of context.

The devs were talking about “reverting” to the old skill set, NOT in making changes to skill modifiers/voicelines.

P.S. I Bold because I don’t like the font they changed too…

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That post wasn’t to “win any points,” that post was to prove how reverts have happened since that statement.

Also, I appreciate your opinion, but I’m going to have to humbly disagree. Neither you nor I speak for the devs and what we “think they were talking about”. No explanation on said terms were made either, so it’s safe to assume that what was said was face value and in broad terms, and anything outside of that, is subjective opinion and/or speculation.

I believe that reverting the hero’s voiceline, her healing back to 50hps, and her Valkyrie healing back to 60hps are all examples of past reverts that have occured since said statements. If you don’t hold that same view, that’s fine and you are entitled to that belief. We’re just going to have to agree to disagree on that. :blush:


~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls
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Factually – if you are talking about the 50hps/s->60HPs/s change which was one of two changes in the most recent set of 2 changes to Mercyis – this change is not a revert

Thanks for projecting your opinion, but I am going to kindly ask that you keep it respectful, civil, and on topic. This is a discussion about Mercy’s current state, swapping Rez on E with Valkyrie, and making Mass Rez an ultimate again, not ad hominem, personal attacks, and your personal envy towards others.

Let’s keep it classy, and thanks for your cooperation! :blush:

I can totally get behind this. Thanks for your suggestions!
I’m curious as to what you mean by “weapon switching time?” Also what are your thoughts for an E ability? Should it be Valkyrie? Or would you prefer something else? :blush:


~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls
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Basically, switching from staff to gun would be slightly faster. Maybe like .2 seconds, for Torb and Mercy both.

I think she could potentially go without an E if those changes are put in.

And here’s where I solidify my point in one of my previous posts here. I had mentioned that there’s really only 3 things you seemed to know how to reasonably post here, and this tiny bit alone shows 2 of those 3 things. And lest you should get too optimistic,

Here’s the 3rd one of those.

Again, you’re basing this off of a voice line change and base HPS changes. You’ve straight up posted this yourself as well, within the very beginning of this thread.

See? There’s no comparing these to the literal change of ultimates, much less a full blown rework. Your arguments would hold more water if you actually gave proof that Blizzard reverted a full blown rework of a character in Overwatch. Not some voice line or HPS change.

Unlike some other characters who have issues, you guys HAVE gotten a direct response from the Overwatch Team regarding Mercy. Geoff already stated the following on Emongg’s stream:

xavvy, you’re just in a denial state. However, you’ll probably just disagree with the bits in this post as well. With that said, let’s take a look at how many posts of yours in this thread in which you’ve agreed or disagreed with other thoughts relevant to this thread up until now; shall we?

Your 'I disagree' posts in this thread are here. This also includes posts that clearly imply disagreeing even if it's not stated:

Post 7
Post 9
Post 17
Post 23 (note that while 1 agree is listed in this post, there are more disagrees than agrees)
Post 35
Post 40
Post 45
Post 50
Post 69
Post 258 (This is in both agree and disagree since both bits are in)
Post 283
Post 337
Post 365 (This is in both agree and disagree since both bits are in)
Post 383
Post 401

  • I’ll even add this post to your list of posts that you’ll disagree with, since I can easily predict how you’d respond to this post.
  • And let’s also not forget any of the posts you have in this thread in which you responded to Megadodo. Which I also find funny because you never did actually answer Megadodo’s question regarding why you use the blush/smirk emojis in relation to the discussed topic. As well as like, nearly every single one of your posts in general…

As for posts in this thread that you have agreed with:

Post 23 (This post can go in both agree and disagree because there is 1 agree bit in. However, note that there are more disagrees than agrees.)
Post 258 (This is in both agree and disagree since both bits are in)
Post 365 (This is in both agree and disagree since both bits are in)

Any post of yours that wasn’t put here would be seen as ‘mixed.’ Not necessarily agree or disagree, but you see where the point is coming from. And as you can see, I had a far, far easier time finding disagrees than agrees. But even those were offset by other disagrees within the same post…

So yeah; and I didn’t see one instance in this thread where you agreed on changes that involved keeping Mercy’s current kit. In other words, the ones that involve Rez ability, and Valk ult. You’d honestly get a lot farther if you actually suggested changes to Mercy’s CURRENT kit, which involve keeping Rez as a regular ability, and Valk as the ult. I mean, if you really want to try pursuing this crusade, be my guest. But I can guarantee you that you’d be vastly disappointed with a potential direct response, since they will state that Mercy will not be reverted.

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I actually haven’t noticed the delay in her switch between weapons. I certainly think that would be a nice QOL fix for the hero. :blush:

As for her E, fair enough. I personally wouldn’t mind it, as long as Mass res is the ultimate (or some variation of it) to balance out the lack of an ability (I personally don’t think a weapon switch buff would be enough to remove an ability altogether). Another idea would be to incorporate some form of Valk on E, balanced to suit her kit without feeling like another ultimate, and moving res to be her Q. Titanium’s thread gave some pretty great suggestions as well that goes into detail regarding her kit without Valk, now that I’m thinking about it, and something like a sort of Pacify, among other things, in place of Rez on cooldown.

I would certainly recommend checking it out if you haven’t already, and don’t mind an in-depth read. :blush:


~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls
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