Swap E-Rez with Valkyrie | Make Rez an Ultimate Again

[Draíocht-11271]

she can’t have much else outside of it as it would just be broken to have that much power in one hero.
Also giving her a “oh I messed up” button instead of committing is a big no no.
It inherently demands for the rest of the kit to be “weak” to compensate for how powerful it is.

sorry is this about genji?

[Quest-11845]

Yo I’m just going to say props for actually going to that length. You constructed a very well worded and coherent response.

Welcome to being ignored by Xavvy.

If anything I hope that this thread has demonstrated there is literally no point in trying. I think sometime after the rework something broke in them, I don’t know. But now they just run on like a loop.

Anyways, once again, props on a good post.

[Links-11786]

Xavvy is actually becoming a laughingstock outside of these forums; their delusions are becoming the face of the Mercy Mains who want mass rez.

[Zergotto-2668]

xavvy is a delusional mercy main completely engrossed in her bubble, with an obnoxious holier than thou attitude. They think their opinion is the best. They straight up said “if the devs tried my suggestion they’d see it was the solution all along”.

once they do, will realize how this was the solution all along.

They just use the same argument over and over (voiceline and number reverts), no matter ho many time we tell they aren’t the same thing.
No matter how much the devs say that mass rez isn’t coming back, they hold to those two small changes like gospel.

While they claim to “every opinion matter”, this topic shows just how much they believe their opinion to be superior and how every other opinion is not worth anything more than “i disagree, so shut up”.

Their posts are a broken record.
“I disagree”
“thanks for projecting your opinion”
“”
“the devs have reverted mercy multiple times”
“we have to agree to disagree”
Add in spending an obnoxious amount of time focusing on semantics and nitpicking criticism.
Add grouping every mercy complaints like they come from a single person and only answering to those they can reply.
Add ignoring every other argument that calls them out on their hypocrisy and repetitiveness.
“True fair and fun”

[Elys-11252]

Imagine Goats and Mercy with Mass ress . I would instanly quit this game once for all.

[RevertMercy-1304]

It sounds like Ad Homiem. I wonder what the full quote actually said…

And you don’t know either, maybe they never tried it before and once they do, will realize how this was the solution all along. It’s all speculation as to what we think they did or didn’t do.

Ah, context. One of the most important elements of human communication. Either way, with that rumor debunked, let’s keep it classy and constructive. Thanks!

Imagine Goats and Mercy with Mass ress . I would instanly quit this game once for all.

You are fine to have that opinion. As for me, I humbly disagree. With counters such as Hammond and Torbs Ults, checks to mass res such as Los, damage reduction instead of invincibility, and 1.25s cast time, I believe Mass res would not only be a great addition to the game, but a necessary one to fight the amount of “Q spam” and power creep we are currently experiencing. I’d certainly play the game a lot more, but hey! My opinion!

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~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls

[Lotus-13637]

@RevertMercy-1304

You are fine to have that opinion. As for me, I humbly disagree. With counters such as Hammond and Torbs Ults, checks to mass res such as Los, damage reduction instead of invincibility, and 1.25s cast time, I believe Mass res would not only be a great addition to the game, but a necessary one to fight the amount of “Q spam” and power creep we are currently experiencing. I’d certainly play the game a lot more, but hey! My opinion!

Too easy to predict, as usual. All 3 bits that I’ve stated before, in one single paragraph. You try to claim that “every opinion matters”. However, this topic alone shows just how much you believe your own opinion to be superior and how every other opinion isn’t worth anything more than “I disagree, so shut up.”

@Zergotto-2668

Add in spending an obnoxious amount of time focusing on semantics and nitpicking criticism.
Add grouping every mercy complaints like they come from a single person and only answering to those they can reply.
Add ignoring every other argument that calls them out on their hypocrisy, repetitiveness.
“ True fair and fun ”

Plus, this.

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And since the cat’s clearly got your tongue without those 3 aforementioned bits above xavvy, let’s see your response to my previous post in this thread of yours.

@Lotus-13637

Even your own ‘signature’ is hypocritical, because it’s literally impossible to manage. To truly get that, you need every single character to be:

• Equally balanced, which is impossible because people will inevitably figure out which characters are stronger than others;
• Equally as fun to play as, which is impossible because fun is a matter of opinion;
• Equally as fair to play against, which is also impossible because everybody has a different skill level. This then loops back to point 1 and repeats endlessly.

And this too.

[Naz-11562]

Y’all would have mass rez with such caveats for a day and realize how crap it is. Because it’s crap. Ppl complain about current rez–it’ll be just as bad on mass rez even with damage reduction and a shorter cast time.

[RevertMercy-1304]

Y’all would have mass rez with such caveats for a day and realize how crap it is. Because it’s crap. Ppl complain about current rez–it’ll be just as bad on mass rez even with damage reduction and a shorter cast time.

Hmmm, I’m very sorry, but I’m going to have to disagree with you there. I think it’s fair to say that people will have different opinions on whether or not these changes will be good or bad for them. We don’t speak for everyone, so I don’t think it would be wise to assume that “everyone who wants mass res with these changes would realize that it’s crap”. But you are certainly entitled to your opinon.

Such a kit has never been made live on Mercy before, or tested in the live servers, so just as there is a possibility that it won’t work out and Mercy mains would hate the changes, there is just as good of a possibility that it will, and that Mercy mains would love them. In my experience, Rez on cooldown feels very different to Rez that you earn, and I think that would go with any ability that you earn vs one that’s given to you on a fixed timer. I think we shouldn’t try to oversimplify the two there.

But alas, we will never know how these changes would actually be received by the community, unless we actually tried it, won’t we?

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~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls

[Zergotto-2668]

It sounds like Ad Homiem. I wonder what the full quote actually said…

And you don’t know either, maybe they never tried it before and once they do, will realize how this was the solution all along. It’s all speculation as to what we think they did or didn’t do.

Ah, context. One of the most important elements of human communication. Either way, with that rumor debunked, let’s keep it classy and constructive. Thanks!

you know that context is supposed to change the meaning of a supposedly out of context line, right?
Because even in context, you straight up said “if the dev tried my idea, they’d see it was the solution all along”.

ps: let’s add “sound like ad hominem” to the pool of stock answers

[Naz-11562]

They’re saying that the “maybe” makes all the difference

[Swagganomics-1491]

• Mercy gets her voiceline reverted
• Mercy gets her healing reverted back to 50hps
• Valkyrie’s healing gets reverted back to 60hps

I suppose that notion hasn’t quite been put to rest, has it?

Your trying really really hard there lol

[Zergotto-2668]

which… doesn’t.
They still are implying that their solution “was the right one all along”.

Your trying really really hard there lol

you are talking to a user that even in front of Goodman and Kaplan both saying “mass rez isn’t coming back” said that they were both wrong.
So…

[Swagganomics-1491]

you are talking to a user that even in front of Goodman and Kaplan both saying “mass rez isn’t coming back” said that they were both wrong.
So…

I mean you have to admire the effort tho honestly.

[Naz-11562]

Don’t look at me, fam. I’m just translatin lmao

[Angie64-1965]

• Mercy gets her voiceline reverted
• Mercy gets her healing reverted back to 50hps
• Valkyrie’s healing gets reverted back to 60hps

I suppose that notion hasn’t quite been put to rest, has it?

The content of what voice lines say, are just cosmetic and have no effect on the gameplay whatsoever. I do agree on your other two points.

EDIT: Having valk on E makes more sense and having rez as an ultimate, thats all i have to say.

[Naz-11562]

The other two are simply not comparable to reverting a highly controversial and inherently problematic ultimate.

[Zergotto-2668]

numbers are much easier to change.
whole kit reverts have never happened so far.

[Angie64-1965]

The other two are simply not comparable to reverting a highly controversial and inherently problematic ultimate.

You ain’t translating anything, just muddling what i said, and assuming i’m agreeing on a full revert when I never mentionned it here.

whole kit reverts have never happened so far.

I never suggested revert i just agreed that valk and rez should be swapped and CURRENT rez should be an ultimate.

EDIT: Also to add to total reverts not happening, i mean torb and sym were a complete rework.

[Naz-11562]

You ain’t translating anything, just muddling what i said, and assuming i’m agreeing on a full revert when I never mentionned it here.

Because I’m referring to a different person’s comment when I said that. Mass rez with any caveats applies to my statement.