Swap E-Rez with Valkyrie | Make Rez an Ultimate Again

I think many people down play how powerful Mass Res is, even if its gimped with a cast time.
You can’t have both Mass Res + Valk and a damage/healing boost.
Mass Res takes allot of your (forgive the analogy) skill points to “unlock” she can’t have much else outside of it as it would just be broken to have that much power in one hero.
Also giving her a “oh I messed up” button instead of committing is a big no no.
It inherently demands for the rest of the kit to be “weak” to compensate for how powerful it is.

But hey, that’s just my opinion.

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They should honestly revert mercy to the 1.0. Sombra, Doomfist and Brigitte is in the game and they’re really good right now so I think it’ll be balanced.

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Mercy isn’t nerfed enough you can still pick her.

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This is an opinion piece. As stated clearly from the first 3 letters of my post. But thanks for pointing that out anyway! :blush:

  • Mercy gets her voiceline reverted
  • Mercy gets her healing reverted back to 50hps
  • Valkyrie’s healing gets reverted back to 60hps

I suppose that notion hasn’t quite been put to rest, has it? :wink:

Agreed. CC in the game would most certainly keep Mass res in check, among other things, as mentioned in the OP. :slight_smile:


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Well you’re not exactly wrong. Give her the old Reinhardt PTR treatment so she is grayed out to mock the people who wanted to play her.

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You are entitled to your opinion, and I respect it. I humbly disagree however. Because with the amount of counter-play that exists at this point, I don’t think an escape option would be all that overbearing, and especially so with things like area denial ults and more CC in this game being a thing. It’s certainly way better than Mercy having the res, ulting, being killed before the ult, and then having it again, ready to try again later isn’t it?

In terms of Valk and Mass res, I dunno about that. I think it’s certainly possible to have both. If the devs were able to figure out how to keep rez and valk in her kit currently, I’m confident that they can do the same if the abilities were switched. We will never know however if this will actually be too powerful or not until it’s actually tested out right? I would say then to atleast give it a chance. At this point, since Mercy is already one of the weakest offensive healers in the game, there isn’t much to lose with said risk. But that’s just my take on it, and you are free to disagree. :blush:


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A better solution would just be single Rez as an ultimate with a low charge cost and no cast time.

Then give her a new E that provides a burst healing effect so she can actually heal tanks. At current she literally takes 10-12 seconds to heal a low health tank.

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I feel like at that point you just want the current rez to be instant again

It doesn’t take that long to get her ult currently

Also would that really give back everyone’s Super Impactful and Engaging Fix that you all complain about? A single rez as an Ult?

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So basically another mass Rez post…ty for the insight on this subject matter we have never heard of

I’m sure the devs and everyone here needed to see this topic again

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I think having Valk on E (even just for a few seconds) would be pretty overpowered. Valk is pretty powerful as is. I’d be able to exploit the hell out of a Valk on CD. Widow and Pharah couldn’t exist anymore around me. I’d rather just remove rez. Mercy’s kit is interesting enough for me without it.

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A single instant resurrect as her ult at least wouldn’t detract from her fun like current rez and valk do.

I see where you are coming from there. In my opinion, a 25 second cooldown, half the original’s range, a single target beam, and all while being under a 6 second duration, would be a huge task to ask for in terms of time management. Since Mercy is designed to either Heal, Damage boost, or in Valk’s case, attack as Battle Mercy individually, I believe that while one could use it to take out that annoying enemy widow or pharah, that is a huge chunk of cooldown time that could have been used on a push or to keep the team alive. I believe there could be huge repercussions and trade offs in one way or another, and if it is in fact too strong, a mere increase in it’s cooldown should certainly fix that. But that’s of course just my 2 cents. :blush:


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“What Geoff had to say:
-Mercy isn’t getting any type of rework
-She isn’t getting any buffs until they see how she’ll perform with the Valkyrie buff
-They talked about Mass Rez and how unhealthy it was for the game and the “Hide and Rez” strategy that some Mercy mains liked to use
-They admit their mistake that Mercy’s balancing was too slow and the 1 year Mercy Meta could’ve been ended earlier than It actually did.”

Sauce:

:wink:

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Um, apologies, but what does this have to do with a revert / going back on their word on past reverts?

I think it’s safe to say that it’s a good idea to take what is said with a grain of salt, and that they change their opinions on things all the time when it comes to the actual follow through. :blush:


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This is just getting sad.

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Can you please stop these threads, do you think if you just changed the title the complaint change? you are just repeating the some arguments over and over again, maybe get something better to discuss rather than mercy.

-Thanks

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If the man in charge of balancing is calling something unhealthy for the game, it’s pretty apparent that it isn’t coming back.

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It would be very weird if someone named RevertMercy was making threads complaining about Sym you have to admit

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Res has to be an ultimate, No choice in that

but what if we try different iterations?

  • Single instant rez charges, 750 total charge per each ultimate, she can accumulate multiple

  • Mass rez

  • Something in between

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Thanks for projecting your opinion, but I’m going to have to disagree with you there. Has Mercy been reverted to have Mass Rez? Is Mass Rez incorporated in her ultimate in any shape or form? If the answer to that is “no”, then you have answered your own question. I will continue to post my feedback on Mercy’s current state, and I will continue to vouch for more reverts. I appreciate the suggestion though! :blush:

And if the man in charge makes statements on things like “deathmatch not coming back”, only to end up announcing deathmatch, and how Brigitte is meant to be “able to counter dive” only to make changes that makes her weak to said Dive comps, I’m pretty sure it’s apparent that they are more than willing to change their minds. :blush:

I’m open to these as well. In fact, I think the idea of building rez charges is a great one, and have made various suggestions regarding the idea myself in other threads as well, that allude to this. Nonetheless, great alternate suggestions, I must say and would love to see these ideas in action. :slight_smile:


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xavvypls
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