[News] Shadowlands Class Updates

I have to say there are some awesome pleasant surprises to see on this list! I was legitimately curious if “depruning” would also include things like weapon choice (IE: Two Handed vs Dual Wield) for a lot of classes and specs. It was really refreshing to see this honestly.

With that said, I have some feedback I would like to give. I also wish to start by stating that I understand these are not fully encompassing lists of what changes are coming and instead are more of “highlights” of key features returning to help build excitement for the de-pruning and general class changes. I understand there are things we still don’t know about but this is the feedback I wish to give just off of what we know so far.

Warrior


Titan’s Grip vs Single Minded Fury
Starting with Warrior I am kind surprised that Fury is not seeing a return of a choice between Single Minded Fury*(SMF)* or Titans Grip*(TG)*. We are seeing the options of Two-Handed vs Dual Wield return for so many specs but not that? I have personally seen, in the Warrior forums and elsewhere, that there is a group that really enjoyed the choice between SMF and TG and would prefer SMF. I am really curious what went into the decision not to bring back SMF as it creates choice like with Two-Handed vs Dual Wield.

Personally I have always favored Titans Grip because… I mean, come on, its two freaking massive Two-Handed weapons! How cool is that? Still, I am surprised this choice did not make a return and honestly kinda hope it does.

Gladiator Stance
I am also kinda surprised that we didn’t see Gladiator Stance make a return. From my understanding the biggest problem with Gladiator Stance Warriors was that they were taking loot from Tanks and Healers as a DPS spec which created a bit of friction among people. Now, however, we are in an era of Personal Loot where loot is generated in a player by player scenario. I always thought the class fantasy of an aggressive sword and board style of warrior was very interesting and was kind of bummer not to see it return.

I feel like this comes back to the whole idea of “Weapon Choice” that I personally really appreciate but also feel a bit saddened it does not go as far as I would have hoped. Personally I would really like to see Gladiator Stance make a comeback as I feel there is a very strong and unique fantasy around that play style that no other DPS really has! Now that we are a purely Personal Loot game I feel like this is the best time for such a spec to flourish and would really love to see it make a return!

Shaman


So, I want to start this off by saying that I was an Enhancement Shaman Main at the end of Vanilla and through till the end of TBC! I don’t say that in an attempt to validate what I am about to say, I just want to express how much I had enjoyed Shaman back in the day. When Vulpera came out and couldn’t be Paladins I was presented with the ultimatum of picking a new class or not getting to play the race I wanted to play. Remembering my love of Enhancement from back in the day, after having been a Paladin main for YEARS, I decided to give Shaman another try. Needless to say I have given quite a bit of feedback on Shaman in various other places but they did not live up to what I remembered.

So, with that said, I am beyond pleasantly pleased with what I am seeing so far :smiley: … However, I still have some feedback I wish to make.

Totems: Totem Bar and Totemic Recall?
I am really glad to see Totems making a major return. I know that in the Shaman Community Totems have a love hate relationship as shown in a lot of the threads over at the Shaman Forums. However, I am personally pleased to see them make a return. With that said, as it wasn’t really mentioned, I am a bit anxious about totem deployment and recovery. The lack of mention of a Totem Bar, the ability to place each totem type down with a single button, and the lack of mention of Totemic Recall is worrisome.

Totems, to me, are fantastic and provide a really cool and unique fantasy to them! However, the Totem Bar that was introduced in Wrath of the Lich King was a godsend at the time in terms of totem management. While I am pleased totems are making a return in a big way I am also worried that too much is being taken from classic and that Totem Management advancements from WotLK are not returning. I would really love to know if we can expect the Totem Bar and Totemic Recall ability to make a return as we know that multiple schools of totems are confirmed to be making a return.

So it would be great to know the extent of how totems are returning and if Totem Bars and Totemic Recall will also be making a return or if its going to be needed. Admittedly, the scope at which Totems are returning is still shrouded in a bit of mystery so who knows if it will even be needed.

Enhancement Weapon Choice
Okay, so for me this is the big one! I knew it was a long shot and the chances of it happening were VERY slim but I remained hopeful and still remain hopeful.

Please, please, please, PLEASE give me the choice of using a Two-Handed weapon or Dual Wielding!

Two-Handed Enhancement was one of my absolute favorite play styles of Enhancement Shaman! The thrill of those big, slow, attacks and getting that beefy Windfury Proc are so iconic and so absolutely satisfying! Like Totems, I know this has been highly debated on the Enhancement Shaman Forums but there have been plenty of threads going over a desire to see this play style make a return!

I genuinely just enjoyed it. While Dual Wield was super cool when it came out, heck even I was excited over it, I really do miss the feel of Two-Handed Enhancement. It just was satisfying for me and I know this is more gushing than anything but I would really, really, REALLY be happy if that choice could be given to Enhancement Shamans. I know that when Dual Wield was added as a talent back in the day it kinda felt “mandatory”, especially with the introduction of things like Laval Lash but please… Please, please, please, PLEASE let me choose Two-Handed over Dual Wield.

I would be beyond a happy camper if this could become a reality and I know I am not alone in this!

And all of these are literally just the tip of the iceberg! There have been literal YEARS of posts on this topic of Two-Handed Enhancement Shaman! I hate trying to speak for others and its not my intent, and I certainly don’t want to paint it as if there are not people who prefer Dual Wield, however there is legitimately a HUGE community of Enhancement Shaman players who really want to see Two-Handers return as an option! This feels like it could be our best chance, possibly only chance, to see that happen in modern WoW.

So please, PLEEEEEAAAAASSSSSEEEEEE! Please, consider letting Enhancement having that choice of Two-Handed weapons as well. I am personally begging you here, I would really love to see that play style become a reality once again.

Final Thoughts


There are a lot of fantastic changes that were announced, heck I didn’t even touch on Paladins because honestly everything I have seen looks amazing! Things like Auras making a return, Wake of Ashes becoming baseline, etc. are all fantastic! I am very excited and happy for the changes coming and really just wanted to bring up my biggest points of criticism/feedback.

Thank you for taking the time to read through my post and I really appreciate it.

16 Likes