From the Barb Community: DO NOT NERF REND

“He’s Conan, he’s a Cimmerian, he won’t cry, so I cry for him.”

Waiting for patch notes like


I should have put this up a few days ago:


Hearthstone just got a patch and notes, so clearly SOME teams are working right now…

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I haven’t actually watched it. I guess I should.

I did a bunch of cable row and face pull supersets at the gym today during my upper body max effort workout. Currently waiting for my wench to sidle up and grope the pump like that.

I hope the Barb community attracts weightlifters…I could transform my box jump into something like leapquake I’m sure…

Does here. Currently on Conjugate, cycle 2, and waiting to see if it all pays off.

I assumed we all were doing this here. Was I mistaken?

Good luck. If there’s any class in D3 that isnt DYEL it is the barb - male or female.

Great advertising preview for Diablo 4: let’s nerf a bunch of builds in D3 and keep the playerbase in the dark about what’s going on

D4 shaping up to be a great experience folks





This bloody road remains a mystery
This sudden darkness fills the air
What are we waiting for?
Won’t anybody help us?
What are we waiting for?

This shattered dream you cannot justify
We’re gonna scream until we’re satisfied
What are we running for?
We’ve got the right to be angry
What are we running for?
When there’s no where we can run to anymore

We can’t afford to be innocent
Stand up and face the enemy
It’s a do or die situation
We will be invincible
And with the power of conviction
There is no sacrifice
It’s a do or die situation
We will be invincible

Undo the Lamentation nerf. Do it now.


In childhood and adolescence, I read many books from the collected works on Conan the Barbarian. Apparently impressed by this fantasy hero, choosing a class in games like Diablo was logical. :grinning:

Are we all Conan’s (Barbarians) in search of Thulsa Doom (Blizzard) to figure out why he killed our father (Lamentation)?


Nevalistis just posted. The era ends when patch 2.6.7 begins. Unfortunately, she didn’t say when this will occur.

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And if anyone gave a flying flip at a rolling donut about eras that would be great.

We’ll likely hear something more tomorrow.

Okay, time for me to be unpopular. All part of the job, though. Hang tight, this is gonna be wordy.

We did, indeed, remove the Lamentation bonus in the release client build for Patch 2.6.7, which was the build that streamers and BlizzCon attendees were shown on the show floor. In an ideal world, I would have had a chance to contextualize this change before the convention. Unfortunately, I did not have that opportunity between my other job duties for the show and titles I support (including Diablo IV and Diablo Immortal, both which had presence at the show).

Normally, when a change like this happens, I find it when I’m updating patch notes for release. This process didn’t occur until last Thursday, after I got back from the show and being home sick from a chest cold I’m still fighting off. My next step is to go to the developers, have some back and forth, and find out insights and intention behind the change. I add that to the patch notes, get it reviewed for accuracy, then come and make a post as soon as I can. That’s where we are right now.

That’s all just background. Here’s what you came to read, and is what you’ll find in the patch notes once 2.6.7 launches:

While we were very happy with how much better Barbarians are performing, we are concerned we may have overshot it. By removing just one silo’d addition, we can observe how the class performance goes for Season 19 and consider re-adding this change in the future. Remember we still have a patch coming up where Barb will be one of the focused classes, so there will be plenty of time to revisit if necessary!

We’re trying to set up Barbarian to be in a better place with more individual knobs to turn so we can tune it better once we get to their new class set and balance pass. We actually want to maintain this process for all classes, too, so if you continue to have feedback on Monk and Crusader, keep it coming! There will always be opportunities to revisit any of these changes.

It’s okay if you don’t like this answer. It’s awesome if you have feedback on it. And it’s the absolute best when you can present that feedback respectfully and constructively. I’ve seen a lot of that, and I’m grateful for it—I only wish I could reply to all of it!

It’s taken a long time to get to this point. We’ve gone through many phases of balance for every class, and there have been ups and downs for everyone. Balance is nearly never a perfect process with a perfect end, and sometimes, no end at all. I’ve said it often before, and I will say it again: we’re not done yet. There’s more Diablo III left to come, and we’re going to continue to read your feedback, play the game, and bring updates to keep you sated in Sanctuary for as long as possible.

RE: Communication being limited - I’ve kind of already touched on this, but I’m being as present as I can be. BlizzCon and Diablo III’s production schedule lined up in an unfortunate way (and getting sick didn’t help matters), but you have my personal commitment to being as communicative as I can be around patches and PTRs specifically. I wish I could have fulfilled this better around 2.6.7—it just wasn’t possible with the other priorities I had to fulfill.

I won’t make excuses, but I will continue to do my best, and I’m grateful for an understanding, passionate community that I saw the best of just a little over a week ago. It was wonderful to see so many of you in person, to finally share my excitement for the future in an honest and open way, and I hope you enjoy the other things we have in store in Diablo III and beyond.

Now, back to work for me. :slight_smile:


Thank you for take the time to post about what happened with the lamentation belt.


“removing just one silo’d addition” and removing 67% of the build’s damage are 2 entirely different realms of scale


Or, hear me out here, you could have LEFT the buff in for a season and see how it pans out instead of teasing a buff then removing it all together. :frowning: