People DIDN'T Know What They Signed Up For

Paid transfers, yes, but they had set free transfers before that. And choices weren’t really permanent in a meaningful way, with the exception of probably priests and their racials. Nor did you get remotely close to the investment we have now.

People are in tier gear, no one in vanilla was remotely that far along before they got to experience wpvp. You were like like 20 if you wanted to reroll, it wasn’t a big deal because there was so much left to discover and so much of the game was unknown.

Still going.

Except when yours is threatened you flail around in the thread insulting people, clean your room. Ever curious where that dirt/cheese smell is coming from?

I suppose being part of a 40 man camping the entrance to dungeons is the last string you’re holding on to if you’re fighting this hard against reason.

Dont try to reason with them. they are elite Aholes that have probly been playing on private servers for the last decade. and what you said was 100% true! i rolled ally on herod because my friends were there. Now with the imbalance horde run every single zone with zero repercussion because they have us in numbers. And i would definitely pay to transfer to a pve server if they let me. i invested many hours to get my hunter to 55 with decent gear that i dont just want to leave

You may have said this, but that is not the over all tone of the forums prior to the release. Overall the general feel of the forums were, “If you aren’t playing PvP, you aren’t playing the real game.”

I am a new player to WoW, I came to the forums to get an idea of what the game was going to be like. Just going off the overwhelming majority of what was being said here, I would probably have rolled PvP. Luckily for me I despise any sort of PvP interaction and take absolutely zero enjoyment out of killing people. However, If I were a new WoW player who didn’t hate PvP, most of what was being said here was telling me PvP was the ONLY way to really play the game.

There were a handful of people saying “It’s going to suck” but you were, by far, in the minority.

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there is no excuse, they should have, you’d have to be completely brain dead and/or ignorant of vanilla to not see the writing on the wall.

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I could go on as well, but genuinely do not care enough to bother, so I’ll be short: if you make a poor decision and can remedy it, you probably should do so. Accidentally kill a random person because you bumped them and they fell in front of a bus? Can’t fix that. Rolled on a PvP server that makes you miserable? You can fix that by rerolling.

I see plenty of people flagged for PvP, more now than before due to honor and the fact so many are level 60 and in raid gear. If you want the wPvP experience, you can have it. Even that little blue Gnome wandering by has the option of flagging, turning around and facerolling you.

And, being honest here, never knowing if a “friendly” will flag to jump you is going to make things more tense than always expecting everyone in the opposing faction to do so and being mentally ready for it. It’s like the difference between being in Afghanistan and knowing you’ll probably be involved in a fight or Thanksgiving dinner with family where you never know if one of your slightly unbalanced relatives will chase you around with a motorized carving knife or not.

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They thought pvp is dueling and fighting over mob tags lol

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This is incorrect. The reason you are where you are is because the PLAYERS massively failed at understanding the game. They rolled on a PvP server thinking it would be, what? I mean it’s a PvP server. PvP.

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You’re right. I expected pvp on the pvp server and instead one faction is pvping and the other faction is sitting in IF.

I guess I should have anticipated that too.

TRUE AF

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Unfortunately, the majority (generally speaking) of complaints aren’t talking about this. They’re concerned with being ganked :cocktail:

I’m all for “nochanges”, and Blizz did make, yet, another change by increasing the server capacity. Unfortunately, like I said, that’s not exactly what the players (generally speaking) are actually upset about :cocktail:

You mean you didn’t think servers would be crazy when honor got released and layering was gone?? I think I remember Blizzard saying something about that…

^^^^ Posted on Aug 16th

^^^ -Aug 16th

Kaivax:

when we turn off layering permanently before Phase 2 of our content unlock plan.

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^^^ Aug-16th … OUCH

People called it. Its amazing people can remember exactly how servers ran 15 years ago but cant remember what was talked about 3 months ago haha.

If only people weren’t so hung up on a name. Biglulz

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You are right, too many serious players assume that casuals (and most don’t come here) would read into the PvP server tooltip and arrive at the same conclusion that they did, which is:

Go hardcore or go PvE.

For casual players who don’t think too much about the game, there is nothing in the server tooltip to warn them that PvP = hardcore.

And that’s what casuals need, a big fat warning.

Amnesia runs rampant in outrage mobs.

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There’s a saying that we’ve all heard before.

“The customer is always right.”

If someone wants to pay for a server transfer they should be allowed to. I expect this will happen as it was a thing in vanilla.

Faction transfers would kill imbalanced servers, they can’t do that. Somewhere like Skerum, the entire Alliance population would disappear, which would destroy any sort of community or relationship you’ve built these last three months.

I agree, PVP right now is a big problem. Lots of people (myself included) are very frustrated with the current state of the game, however transfers are not a viable option right now. I don’t know if there is a viable option, to be honest. This is a problem Blizzard has seen before, and they’ve never been able to fix it.

Except we have this now and I hate to tell you this, but as someone who hit rank 14 on Nostalrius when it was at its worst in terms of player population being at a constant 13k online at almost any hour, this would have been a very stupid move for them to do.

Nothing burns you out more than “Oh I gotta rush to 60, then I gotta immediately start doing BGs and ganking people in between the queues to maximize my honor gained.” After you spend four straight months on 20+ hour days grinding away you feel so unmotivated to play the game that you straight up just sell your account because you literally have no motivation left to play. The time you had to enjoy the game before it ramped up didn’t exist, you went from one of the worst Classic grinds right into the worst Classic grind.

I actually liked the fact I got to sit back and enjoy the game after I went full autism in the leveling process, unwind a bit, do dungeons without having to rage at them taking forever because my ability to hit standing 1 was now jeopardized because every minute I was in the dungeon I wasn’t out grinding honor and falling behind further and further. Even worse when the item you’re after that might give you a considerable edge in power doesn’t drop so you just spent all that time not gaining honor for nothing.

Except that statement is false

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Yes you should have. It’s always been like this. It’s the reason people were whining about PvP servers and blizz finally just made them all PvE servers and added Warmode.