damn dude people are crazy and obsessive, I clearly said “If it was this long to level, the numbers would reflect unhappiness that many months behind” and didnt pose the statement like i at all claimed to know the average leveling time of a casual player in 2009.
Oh man he needs help and its not the kind he can get from blizzard or on the forums.
I wasnt even pushing a point, i was just trying to look at the numbers objectively despite them obviously not being evidence about rdf.
People are clearly too upset by this issue and the fact that they see anyone who disagrees with them about a system in a video game as a bad faith actor who means to “actively harm” other people is clearly well beyond a mental state i feel comfortable discussing on the forums.
6 months after RDF patch there was not a dip in subscriptions. Did I miss where that was their claim?
This is why I said I think you’re taking it too far, and treating them like an enemy instead of just a person with a different opinion. With all due respect, your tone is way worse than theirs is currently.
I don’t think this type of stuff is appropriate either. I know you likely felt defensive and I get it, but the less insults everyone can throw around, the better these threads will be.
(not that I’m perfect either, and I don’t mean to sound preachy even though I totally am right now)
Ah, well I guess history entire days in the past is irrelevant if they’re being relatively calm today instead of jeering, taunting, and reveling in other people’s displeasure.
Six months? They rose for a year and into Cata. Not a lot, but an increase is an increase. And it was during a huge content drought.
And it still has nothing to do with anything. No one will ever prove why subs go up or down. It’s just anti-lfd trolls trying to change the subject because they have no actual argument against lfd.
This is not correct according to any graph I have seen. Numbers peaked end of Wrath / beginning of Cata, and the first quarter after Cata launch you start to see the decline.
I think there are trolls on both sides making the same bad faith arguments, using the same data to try and prove their point, and they are all wrong.
I don’t think that’s what was happening here at all, though.
The person you’re defending. I was going to quote all the highlights (from what, one or two weeks maybe? I haven’t been aware of him for that long), but the ability to search through one’s own posts is truly atrocious so I gave up and quoted one in easy reach due to someone having liked my response to it, and then literally just scrolled through a couple pages of his post history. Like seriously man, I went in blind with no doubt I’d be able to find a few examples very quickly. And I did. Very quickly.
These are furthermore exclusively the outright malicious ones and not even the constant stream of bad faith argumentation he’s been spewing.
I understand, all I came with originally was that I entered this conversation, and was able to interact with the person in a very civil manner. Others obviously haven’t been able to, and that’s an issue between those two parties. No bad faith arguments were presented to me in this specific case.
I’m not here to get into a debate about who’s a meany weany around here or anything, we all overreact sometimes, especially in forums. My interactions with the person have been just fine, that’s all I can attest to.
Truly not trying to dog you, but if apparently you don’t care who’s a meany weany then your initial tone policing of me makes little sense. I have no problem with being called out and will always double-check myself if it happens, which I did when you pointed out I was operating under a misunderstanding of context for a couple posts. With regards to my tone I was just giving you context for my bluntness.
That being said I will leave you be however you respond, if at all.
As long as they kept trading gold between servers disabled, it wouldn’t really hurt anything at this point.
All the people from the small servers would have a huge influx of groups, raids etc… It would make the new servers like Eranikus super viable and help a lot of people on the fence about transferring to probably decide to actually transfer
gDKPS would still be server bound due to not being able to trade cross server
There we go. The reason being completely selfish. It is pretty easy to see what kind of person you are in real life. None of your argument is about what is best for the player base, what is best for the game, but only what is best for you. You are even like who cares after you get yours.
Get your toxic, selfish, gatekeeping out of here. Your opinion is now in the minority of the WotLK player base. People that act like you are acting are the kinds that hold back new and better learning methods, are cool to not allow others to have equal opportunities, and hold back progress as a whole. Most of the names used for these type of people are not very favorable now a days.