lots of tests from various Paladins show that Shadow Oil does NOT have flat 15% proc rate
SlimysquidYesterday at 4:46 AM
@Judgement I just tested shadow oil on my hunter. I first tested to see if it procced with wing clip - and it did.
Then i tested more than 450 auto attacks and wing clips combined. I had only one weapon equipped in my main hand, and nothing in the off-hand.
It procced around 3% of the time.
EVERYONE -> please spam them with bug reports. This sucks.
SmeetYesterday at 5:09 AM
What’s dumb is how easy this is to test. Swing 1000 times, see how many procs you get. If you get nowhere near 150 procs? There’s a problem with it according to the tooltip. Unless there is an underlying mechanic like an ICD or ppm scaling that the oil has which is driving the proc rate down.
SlimysquidYesterday at 10:15 AM
ppm would make no sense, then the tool tip shouldnt outright state 15%… then it would say something like “has a chance to cast a shadowbolt when you strike” and be purposefully vague
i believe ICD would also make it have a purposefully vague tooltip
SmeetYesterday at 12:51 PM
I was using a flurry axe (for a 1.5 speed and extra swing procs). After 801 landed hits, I got 70 procs, for an overal proc rate of 8.7%
SlimysquidYesterday at 1:38 PM
I tested with a random level 20 fist weapon for main hand only that had 1.5 speed. My proc rate in 450 attacks was under 3%… I had nothing in my offhand, feelsbad
here you go. I realize 450 attacks isnt enough to conclude anything… but frankly, we have enough data at this point for me not to waste more gold
SlimysquidToday at 3:42 AM
Alright, my math was wrong.
This is a screenshot of me testing a low-level (in case it’s based on weapon ilevel) and slow weapon to see if it’s PPM based.
I have auto-attacked only for 10 minutes straight. As you can see from the resulsts, I have done a total of 169 attacks.
Obviously Shadow Oil won’t be able to proc from dodges, so we discount those. That leaves 142 hits, and 18 crits for a total of 160 attacks.
11 shadow bolt procs over 160 hits equals 6.875% proc chance.
I will now test with a high level (lok’delar) and slightly faster staff to see if the results change.
SlimysquidToday at 4:02 AM
Second test of the day, now testing if the weapon ilevel affects the chance to proc. The staff used in the previous test was a level 31 staff, and in this test I used Lok’Delar. Please discount the “absorb” as it was just from power word: shield, and I did get a proc during a shield so that shouldn’t affect the chance.
Here we have 192 attacks and 6 dodges for a total for 186 hits that connected. Out of those 186 hits, we saw 14 shadow bolt procs. That equals 7.52% chance, which is slightly above the last 10 minute test. Considering the short length (it doesn’t feel that way!) of the tests, we can assume that the item level didn’t chance the proc rate.
SlimysquidToday at 4:25 AM
Third test: testing to see if it has anything to do with PPM using a flurry axe instead of a slow weapon. I had nothing in my off-hand. A little note: I started having misses, which I don’t understand. I have 5% chance to hit from my equipment, and as far as I know you need 3% hit chance to hit level 60s/pvp. I didn’t dual wield either which would explain it. In any case:
SlimysquidToday at 4:35 AM
The melee and melee (flurry) are to seperate events, and both are NOT counted under “melee”. This ruins the test slightly, as I can’t remember how many misses and dodges the melee (flurry) had.
We had 399 regular attacks. 59 of them were dodged, and 44 of them missed. That leaves 296 hits that connected.
We had 12 melee (flurry attacks). If we assume (I KNOW, SORRY ) that 9 of them connected, we then had 296 hits + 9 hits. That is a total of 305 hits.
In those 305 hits, we saw 29 shadow bolt hits. That is a 9.5% chance to proc shadow oil.
PS: There are a couple of things with this test. First of all, the flurry melee hits was annoying, and I don’t know if they proc shadow oil or not. Secondly, we saw a 14.8% dodge chance… Have you ever seen that fast a dwarf priest before?! Thirdly, I had an 11% chance to miss, even though I have 5% chance to hit from gear. I can’t explain the last two.
In conclusion: item level doesn’t seem to affect the proc chance, as it was only slightly higher with lok’delar (and considering 10 minute tests, they were probably the same)
Flurry axe seemed to have a higher proc chance, and also procced 29 times in 10 minutes instead of 11 and 14 procs with the slow weapons. That means it is probably not PPM based.
Also, I’m done using shadow oils for the day I hope some of you find the data useful