Concerned Paladin here, can we please get a response to this issue? Thank you.
-Illucia Blaumeux
Can we get an update on this bug? Would be nice to have word on it before BWL drops.
Please give us an update!!!
update needed
Plz fix. ty.
Daily reminder to fix shadow oil.
Jesus thatâs a lot⌠2K is plenty for WoW, but their âRNGâ calculations are suspect given that they run in very very long stringsâŚ
Itâs almost as if they âBATCHâ the RNG for the day per character or something⌠Not sure what theyâre doing but it sure as heck is not calculated RNG; thatâs for certain.
Until Blizzard posts their method I refuse to believe theyâre using any sort of RNG in the common variety but some sort of hokey garbage that is unreasonably bad.
In the context of wow more hits gives a better actual value. 20k hits with a hoj shows less than the listed value - why would shadow oil be any different?
Ill log in and check current data and post here aswell.
because the tooltip literally says 15% proc rate yet the in game results are completely off well beyond the margin of error
Tooltip on hoj is 2% and clearly its below that. A test of 20k hit will give you a more accurate value to create a bug report with is all im saying man - i dont deny there is an issue or something not working as intended.
The discrepancy lies in the fact that Frost Oil is working within its margin of error of 10% proc to chance though - itâs quite literally night and day difference between their proc rates on classic even though the tooltip difference is only 5% between Frost vs Shadow Oil.
We WANT to be able to use Shadow Oil - especially later on when Mages switch to Fire spec and no longer go Frost (which at least currently boosts Frost Oil).
However, come AQ40 no Mages will remain Frost spec and so Shadow Oil will be the desired weapon imbue since it has higher proc rate (on paper/tooltip), scales for higher spell damage coefficient and scales with Imp Shadow Bolt debuff.
So run tests at over 20k hits to get a better proc rate is what im saying.
Have multiple people test it, various weapon speeds, log it - check for double procs, buffs being exteneded or not, internal cooldowns - you need to look at every aspact of it.
Is it possible its not 15% of âhitsâ but a % based system of total attacks - similar to crit chance.
Can it proc on a parry/block/dodge/miss - it is calculated on the swing or the landed attack.
More data = better results.
youâre missing the entire pointâŚ
shadow oil has an internal cd whereas frost oil simply does not
shadow oil will NOT trigger on both white and SoR whereas frost oil will
THATâS THE PROBLEM
weâve tested it for months lol
I find it very strange that the listed proc rate is actually closer to the procs v weapon hits - discounting crits. Test the data to check proc rate from crits. EG log the test and see what % of crits allowed a proc.
It has nothing to do with crits. Thereâs a hidden internal cooldown on it that prevents it from going off any closer than 10s to another proc.
Shadow oil procs 15% of the time just fine, so long as you wait 10 seconds between hits if you see shadow oil go off. Thatâs why we saw slower weapons report higher proc rates. They got less hits in during the 10s window that shadow oil literally can not proc.
The question that we have is now more about âis that 10s hidden cooldown intended?â Frost oil doesnât have it, and I canât think of anything else in vanilla that had one that was longer than a fraction of a second to prevent chain procs.
ding ding ding
Theloras is right. Please fix shadow oil Blizzard
Reminder to look into this.