Rogues vanish only really got genuinely good past cata. up until wotlk you had to stun your target/range your target to 100% safely vanish away without it being immediately broken, and warriors AoE Intimidating Shout or Demoralizing shout or whatever used to also break vanishes stealth. Also if you have engineering you can throw a bomb at a slowed rogue who obviously is going for a vanish, and crack them out of it as its a 2-3 second cast. https://youtu.be/5uZ-fSMT1tU
Lmfao are you serious?
You were literally prepared to fall apart over this well before classic launched.
Such a flimsy reason to give. Just say who wrecked you in stv and be honest
Who says anything about MC? If thats the game for you fine idc. I talk about small things that happen on a daily basis that are just not happening on the nost core. The spellbatching works worse than the spellbatching on private servers. I have animation bugs on classic and I am unable to see people casting things like fear or shadowbolt. Druids can get mana burned in bear/feralcat form, the priest shield bug, energy reggen not working correctly, items having tbc like implementation even though its 1.12. I could go on. These are issues that did not exist on modern private servers. They were faulty too no doubt but they were not made by a financially wealthy company that originally created the game in the first place.
Im pretty sure that their reference client is far superior to any private server out there but the classic version which i think is a retro fitted from the legion client (?) is just a mess. I stumble upon bugs daily and yes there were bugs on Private servers too but I have to hold blizzard to a higher standard.
I think I had like 1 pvp fight in STV. I was ahead of the curve and nobody was even there yet because I’m not a scrub like yourself
Sounds like you’re the one who got it out of the system…
changed my main posting toon to my rogue i made in wotlk, go ahead and check char specific achs, i remember doing WG and having to blind other melees so i could get a vanish off successfully. What you should be getting angry over is sap not being broken by damage if you have a bubble applied (Priest/Warlock Sac) so as a rogue i can sap you, and break your bubble while youre sleeping without worrying about a death coil or psychic scream.
edit Or i can alternatively sap you with a fresh bubble, have my mage friend stack his crit % with rank 1s until hes at 5 stacks, and then throw a full frostbolt while youre sitting in a cheap shot.
Nobody cares about your main I can switch to my vanilla main if you like. I was responding to saying vanish wasn’t good in vanilla which is simply wrong.
it was GENUINELY not good, not only could a human pop perception and see a fellow 60 rogue creeping around from 10 yards with imp stealth from a fresh vanish (with or without bloodvine lens equipped) but if you vanished as ANY ranged class finished their cast it would still break you out when it hit you.
Can’t speak for feign since I never played a hunter then, but I did have a rogue and can comment on vanish. Auto-attack breaking you out of vanish was normal in vanilla. It was a bug then yes, but it’s not a bug in relation to classic’s emulation. The question people should be asking is if Blizzard should fix old bugs or keep them as they were.
You forgot wands are broken too.
You’re actually a sook.
Love,
Australia.
The vanish bug back then was nowhere near as bad as this one, probably created by the re-engineered spellbatching.
Yesterday I fought a hunter and a rogue joined the fray. I see him vanish and I had enough time (after seeing the animation of vanish mind you) to tab target to him and use blind. And it still got him out.
Vanish did have issues with autohits in vanilla but it was never even close to being this bad.
i cant find an exact date or reliable hotfix page, but from my understanding i believe that “Improved Stealth” from vanish made you immune to all damage for 3 seconds in cata. before then ANY damage taken would break vanish. Although i agree blizzard may need to implement it or change the way their tickrate registers vanish and give us some leeway.
i am by NO MEANS saying give rogues a 3-5 second safety net like in BFA (you can almost run through a whole hunter flare without getting broken out) but give us atleast the updates to the current classic update. Rogue Hotfix list below.
Patch 1.12.0 (2006-08-22):
Now removes effects that allow the caster to always remain aware of their target (currently [Hunter’s Mark] and [Mind Vision]).
Reduced the number of messages in the combat log when using the Vanish ability.
Fixed a bug that made Combo Points disappear from your target when using Vanish.
Patch 1.8.0 (2005-10-10): Fixed a bug where the Chilled effect caused by [Ice Armor]/ [Frost Armor] was not removed properly when vanishing.
Patch 1.5.0 (2005-06-07): Should be a lot more responsive when used to avoid incoming attacks.
Patch 1.4.0 (2005-05-05): Increased stealth bonus.
Patch 1.2.0 (2004-12-18): Vanish will now break root and slow effects.
Patch 1.1.0 (2004-11-07): Will now cancel spells in progress and missiles in flight if they are being cast at the vanished player.
Patch 0.12 (2004-10-11): Now breaks root and snare effects.
Patch 0.9 (2004-08-17): Spellcasting against a Rogue that successfully uses Vanish will now be interrupted.
Patch 0.7 (2004-06-15): Duration reduced.
Edit now that im looking at this list, i can somewhat agree with OP, but i havnt gotten a solid answer as to what patch classic is on, be it 1.13 or 1.12, as if it was 1.12, thorium point flight paths would not exist. It seems to me as if blizzard is trying to replicate what their ideal “classic” would look like, and need to remove a “1.12/1.13” tag beside it, and just call it classic and put up a CURRENT UP TO DATE AND TESTED patchlist and infolist so we can look it up for our own information.
Sounds like it’s an exact version of how WOW was back then.
Can I have your gold?
Most of the bugs listed are either bugs unique to classic or bugs that were fixed in patches previous to 1.12 that somehow didn’t get fixed in classic.
Am I reading the right thread? He listed reasons Blizzard think the feign death trap is working differently and the steps they’re planning to implement to help fix it.
What are you mad about?
You got destroyed and are quitting… the scrub in this equation is clear to the rest of us lol
Let’s see. 8/26/19 release date. OP already level 60 about 28 days later? Posts on the forum standard ‘game broke not fixed in one month I quit’ post. Is combative with everyone who doesn’t agree with him and who does not also quit in faux rage. Forum feeds his rage. Life goes on?
No Blizz is not perfect. Not by a cell phone having long shot. But seriously. Maybe take a break.