Epic premades are toxic and totally violate the social contract and terms of service

[Holycow-uldaman]

@Raistmajere-dawnbringer

Blizzard has indicated in the past that they don’t want a situation of organized vs disorganized which is why they limited the maximum queue size to 5 yet it seems they have neither acted nor communicated their expectations since OQueue

Blizzard gave premade raids another shot when Ashran was first launched, but they were quickly reminded that premade raids vs. pugs is a very poor PvP experience. So Blizzard disabled premade raids.

Holinka tweeted:

https://twitter.com/holinka/status/646509604638035968

We think it’s important that all players that enter Ashran have an equal opportunity to compete.

https://twitter.com/holinka/status/646509965465616384

If you’re in Ashran, we think it’s okay to bring 4 friends along with you. But bringing 39 creates an unfair environment.

https://twitter.com/holinka/status/646510211453194240

Unfortunately, a few people have circumvented those restrictions and we’ve had to create additional measures.

https://twitter.com/holinka/status/646510398091362304

Certainly happy that new communities have sprung up and new friendships have been formed. But not at the expense of fairplay.

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Later on, Holinka once again emphasized they don’t like premade raids in random bgs.

Do you dislike just premades greater than 5 people, or you dislike even 5 people grouped into a random BG?

https://twitter.com/holinka/status/312067433181618176

Premades larger than 5 people. Anything that deliberately circumvents the in-game constraints

Unfortunately, those tweets were lost when Holinka deleted all of his old tweets.

But, it’s not like premade raiders listened to him even when the tweets were up.