Please put PERSONAL LOOT

Diablo II: Resurrected General Discussion
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Because there are things that D2 does better than PoE and things that PoE does better than D2.
If there is a way to bring a good system from PoE over to D2 without impacting D2 then there is no harm in it.

So far there have been only few common arguments against ploot that would make d2 worse. All have been more or less debunked.
First i will list the common arguments that debunk:

  1. same item drops as in FFA mode (en par with 8 player pub)
  2. FFA mode is still available
  3. statistically loot is distributed in a fair way over the course of multiple games
  4. Solo MF runs and FFA games are still more efficient ways to get loot
  5. in FFA games you can see items, but do not necessarily get them
  6. not everyone enjoys the “adrenaline game” of item grabbing
  7. more accessable to new players
  8. leechers get only 1/8 of the items, arguably less than in FFA
  9. adding extra rules might prevent leeching (e.g. distance or damage)
  10. timed loot could make loot accessable for everyone after a short time (e.g. 1-2 seconds)
  11. prevents pick it as a nice side-effect
  12. it allows to focus on other aspects of the game more (gameplay, social, etc.)
  13. it does not have to be efficient
  14. we are paying customers just like you
  15. remaster does not have a clear definition
  16. the devs asked for feedback / are open for QoL changes
  17. some players are playing in an disadvantage (technical problems, social situation, health situation, etc.)
  18. not everyone has a full list of friends available whenever they want to play

Counter arguments:

  • destroys the economy → 1, 3, 4
  • more efficient ways to play the game (e.g. Solo MF, private lobby) → 2, 4, 13
  • you are destroying d2 → 1, 2, 6, 7, 13,
  • you split the community → 6, 7, 12, 14, 17 (also in conflict with “go play solo”)
  • you do not know D2/how to play → 1, 6, 7, 13, 17
  • leechers will abuse it → 1,2, 3, 4, 8, 9, 11, 13
  • i dont like changes → 1,2, 14
  • you are too young/old → 6, 7, 13, 14
  • i played for x hours for 20 years → defeats itself
  • go play x → 1, 6, 7, 13, 14
  • the devs said “remaster” → 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 14, 15, 16
  • the adrenaline rush is part of the game → 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 17
  • in ffa games you have a higher sense of accomplishment (you click yourself) → 1,2, 3, 6, 7
  • ploot is the easier way to get items → 1, 3, 4, 8
  • go play with friends → 3, 4, 6, 7, 12, 13, 14, 18
  • i will only get bad items → 1, 2, 3, 5, 10, 11, 13

I surely missed some, so feel free to add to the list.

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