Petition to keep Seals, Totems and Auras in Cataclysm

Even funner fact! Wrath is retail with Vanilla old world. Easy dungeons, easy raids, consolidated stats, boring stats, started the loot from current tier nearly always outperforming previous tiers, four raid difficulties, easy loot catchups, raider.io in the form of gearscore, beginning of class homogenization like giving replenishment or crit chance to other specs, ability to switch between multiple specs, LFG, and dungeon blue equivalent heirlooms trivializing the leveling process.

It’s just funny people saying Cata was the start of retail because it changed the world when WotLK was the tone shift into retail.

There were some niche benefits of being able to scout a location before really heading there also.

Lol like Lightning Bolt, multi-target Lightning Bolt, Fire DoT, Fire Spell, hit things with lighting hammer, hit things with fire hammer, smol heal, large heal, jumpy heal?

Seals, totems, and auras are still in Cataclysm. It’s MoP that removed all of those.

This is the only thing you got right here. These two abilities are actually going away (and we don’t care).

Says the person that takes everything they read out of context on a regular basis and doesn’t bother with comprehension.

BTW you contradicted yourself; this…

With This…

No…

What we said is just a matter of perspective…

That ppl like you then purposefully take out of context to fill your narrative.

I’m not going to anymore, since ppl like you are just purposeful ignoramuses, but you can argue that retail began as early as vanilla, prior to BC.

Only the lowly say it, because you people get angry that I’m right.

I’ve talked to you many times before, you are an absurd individual with expectations that have never been a thought to this IP. You crave everything you currently don’t have or ever had, while simultaneously wanting it to be classic specifically.

You have a flavor that no chef could ever appease, and you dig your heels into the ground on it and die on that hill everytime.

You are a consistent binder for most forum users. We disagree a lot, but most everyone here who has seen you post blatantly ignores you because you are not a wow player. You’re someone who convinced themselves to play wow against the fact that it provides you with almost nothing you want. It’s weird.

Your current hill is sentry totem. I don’t have to say more.

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But you’re not right about anything.

You’re a kind of liar at heart…

Case in point… You said I bring up the A.I. thing up almost everyday (your words and spare me the effort of having to quote you on what you said) when the last time I brought that up was b4 RDF was put in.

So not only do you take every little thing that is said out of context, but you’re also not even accurate in your accusations.

That makes you a liar at heart. Now back to the question at hand…

What exactly was it that I said about sentry totem that is wrong?

I see that this is the moment where you tuck your tail between your legs.

Well when you’re a liar, it’s easy to think that you’re right about everything.

Now that’s just mean, I was in no way mean to you and yet here you are name calling. I mean… that’s really all you have to rebuttal? You could at least be a little more constructive. Next, what perspective have I taken out of context to serve my narrative? Cata is retail because it removed the old world? I mean, come on. I was on your side defending the use of the sightseeing totem and you had to go and attack me. I was at least also willing to share my perspective that WotLK was really where retail started and gave reasons why, you just took what I said out of context even though I put exact reasons why in that same post.

No, I’m real at heart. People don’t like me because I don’t sugar coat it. You’re focusing on the detail

Like this. Sure, I said you added more pepper than you actually do, but the meat and potatoes are still there. This is still something I know you’d argue for if a current thread was up for it. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.

It’s hard to call me a liar when you didn’t deny the core of it, and only the details. Cope more.

It’s a useless ability for useless players and anyone who defends this totem is a player of the absolute lowest possible level.

That’s why I don’t have to say more. It’s not that I can’t insult you and roast you for this, it’s that I don’t have to when you present this as your stance. You did my job for me.

Don’t double post trogg. I get it, you’re mad, but you can say it all in a single post.

Edit: everyday I see you post* I fixed the detail for you.

Classic CATA needs to be as original to OG CATA as possible.

Being able to use and have the unique design of classes, spells, graphics, available is exactly why TBC Era and WotLK Era servers with the playerbases original character copies should stand along with Vanilla Era.

You answered your own question.

I didn’t say you took something out of context specifically. I said ppl like you do… like the rogue below you writing a near wall of text of what I’m sure amounts to absolutely nothing.

You took what I said out of context then, you’re doing it as we speak; why would I take you seriously about discussing anything again?

As far as I’m concerned, you’re just a liar, So until you decide to stop replying to me, I’m not going to dignify anything you have to say with any real seriousness anymore, save for this last point below.

That wasn’t really the issue though. I may have mentioned a quip about the totem’s viability, but that was only after that mage already derailed with nonsense.

The issue was me quitting over its deletion. The mage that initially retorted, insinuated that I was somehow wrong or lying about quitting over such a thing; which is a ridiculous premise to look for an argument to begin with.

You’re more than welcome to quote anything I said; but, you being a liar, you’re just going to take it out of context, even after I just put it proper context in this very post, and derail the conversation. Being the kind of liar you are, don’t bother.

And it’s not just you. The mages and loks that are arguing this thread are the same.

^^These are the original replies to my original sentry totem comment. Nothing of value was offered here and as a result, this is the point we are at.

Now you may tuck your tails between your legs if you wish.

I think sentry totem died for the same reason eyes of the beast. As in they stopped working after a lot of changes so they just gave up and binned them?

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What changes?

All these morons here are discussing that Cata doesn’t change much at all.

“You’re wrong in your assessment”

^^^^ That’s just me being sarcastic about those arguing against. I don’t think you’re wrong at all.

Cata is when Paladins go into the dumpster and you wait til WoD for them to be fun again.

Oh look a that!!!

Someone else that shares a point a view about Cata changing significantly from Wrath.

To you morons that I was arguing with B4… You sure you don’t wanna backtrack on your statements?

This is also when they promised darker nights but it wouldnt work. Like, I wouldent be able to pinpoint what change because something broke these things. Path of the Titans LOL.

Statistic Changes - Wowhead

This whole guide has so many articles linked to it if you want to browse

Because you lose a useless ability that you never used?

I don’t know about other classes but Cata Paladin is probably the worst iteration of the class in the game’s history, especially for Ret. You get 1 spender every 10 seconds and every third spender has to be spent just putting up a buff, it was super boring and painfully slow.

That’s not something you can know for sure, as you don’t play the game for me.

FYI…

I even have macroes for sentry totem for a variety of uses. Personal uses.

I’m just going to tell you and them str8t up what is going on…

They’re trying to discredit any kind of comparison/contrasting that looks negatively upon Cata, in order to push as many players towards Cata as possible. Considering that all these arguments are subjective at best, neither being right or wrong, but just opinionated, they go out of their way to pass it all as fact and out-right insult anyone that disagrees with them.

Notice that I’m not even asking for sentry totem to be preserved as I don’t plan to play Cata anyways…

But all one has to do is see the degree to which this thread has derailed.