Blizzard’s former mismanagment of servers is not a good rationalization for CRBG…
CRBG’s do not work, if they did we would have PVP faction balance right now in BFA but because of CRBG players are all horde for the most part…
Its so bad that in the AB event BG they are now using AI players so that the Horde has some one to fight…
Essentially CRBG’s cause faction stacking…
Anyone that knows anything about Vanilla PVP and are going to be playing Classic for PVP will roll horde; especially if there are CRBG because they know it does not matter how imbalanced their server is, they will just roll horde…
As a result the alliance will QQ because they cannot win and Classic WoW will be an unfortunate situation just like modern WoW BG’s where people QQ about all the stuff that people QQ’d about before CRBG…
Here are some examples from CRBG equipped BFA.
Alliance QQ about never winning as a result there are no Alliance players and as a result the Horde Q’s are super long…
Alliance do not PVP now, and as a result Blizzard has resorted to using Bots…
While I do not believe early blizzard iterations of AV would actually be able to be zerged successfully (without astronomical constructed circumstances), saying that the old versions would be zerged defeats the argument for the very nerfs that the “1.12 AV is fine” support.
AV should not be a simple choice of zerg or turtle. There used to be loads more things going on in the BG.
Lets just be thankful the vocal minority don’t get what they want.
It is 1.12 AV and most folks will agree, including the developers, this is the correct choice.
The peel the onion argument is about as useful as the book itself. You read it once, get all it had to offer, run the BG a couple times and then discard it. Imo.
It’s not hard when a majority of players on each side ignore each other and focus on the pve part of AV. Like I said, many pservers use the old AV. This isn’t how I think it would work, it’s how it is actually working there.
Only when the other side didn’t play any D. But then that’s a problem with the player base not the map.
But in reality very few games ended up being pure rushes, most games turned into some form of fighting over towers and fighting for the graveyards which lasted quite awhile.
When you make things too easy, people are psychologically forced into doing the easy path.
If it has cross realms then their certainly will be an uncontrollable group of people zerging. Thats pretty much the reason why bgs are the way they are in live, its too easy to get into it and people aren’t going to communicate with people as much.
LOT of people in this game wanting to force everyone else in the game to PLAY THEIR WAY or GTFO.
1.12 AV has options, as my OP explains. The chokepoints are there, if you don’t utilize them that’s your issue.
FORCING people into an earlier version of AV with only 1 way to play it sounds better to you? That LIMITS player choice. You guys need to be real about what you’re asking here.
They got the name brand cereal. Sat right down in isle ‘private server,’ cried, and got the cereal. Mama and Papa caved.
Continuing to cry because a few pieces in the bag -1.12AV- aren’t exactly what they remember or want, from the last time they had name brand cereal, is silly.
Just be happy with the high quality, stable, well maintained cereal. You don’t get it often, you hardly deserve it and it will be almost 100% as delicious as you remember. And infinitely better than the private server, off brand, nasty nuggets you’ve been snacking on.
Yup, reinforcements didn’t facilitating zerging. The changes to the map and the player mentality did. Once they figured out losing a fast AV was more honor efficient than winning a long one, that’s what they did. But even that mentality in 1.5 wouldn’t work because the NPCs and the map simply doesn’t allow it.
I could probably count the number of AVs I’ve seen end with the Generals alive on one hand. Versus hundreds of AVs that ended after a General died. So reinforcements play almost no role.
In the stickied AV post from Kaivax, the first and second negative posts have more upvotes than Kaivax himself. Are those who simply upvote part of this vocal minority too? Is your criteria for the vocal minority: “those who don’t visit this forum”, and are we to believe that they’ll be jumping for joy for 1.12 AV?
Reinforcements turned zerging into the best strategy on the map. Before that as the OP said it was perfectly viable for people to play defense or at least back cap and stall. And despite what some people with bad memories are trying to claim there were plenty of long games in AV in 1.12 and it was no where near a zerg every time.