No please no additional LoS checks. Her hack is already completely buggy as it is. She still hasnt recovered from her nerf in march.
Fair enough.
That said, as for the unlimited invisibility. I figure get rid of that and bring back old invisibility with full run speed.
Classic sombra 3.0
Keep doing it, if asking for changes dosnt work lets tilt everyone ,
No more mr.nice sombrero
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With that suggestion, youre running through open doors here.
I still hate when people bring up this video because it says as good as nothing, You are faster (from spawn to point) with +75 on 6s then +50 on infinite duration if you use your TL and for the rest Overwatch is not a marathon its a sprint you never should be in stealth for so long that its actually faster then +75% on 6s
The only way to actually go around that problem is to place it TL in your spawn or at least far away from the action what increases the problem we talk about in this thread DOWNTIME extremely so its either extremely high risk - less downtime or low risk more downtime
Sombra needs changes I wonât repeat my self with how so here
Changes: The 4-Step plan to buff Sombra (Facts and Opinions) - #23 by SchWiniX-2357
Bugfixes: Even more Sombra Bugs in 1.26/1.27/1.28 [With Video's] - #11 by SchWiniX-2357
Well, not quite sure I get the idiom.
But yeah, better to have a limited strength, rather than unlimited meh.
Sombras are now Gandalfs for Zenyattaâs:
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It a german phrase for suggestions which everyone agrees upon.
Running through open doors wont give you any resistance on your course.
Yeah, thereâs a similar phrase for pushing on an open door.
Still though, the core elements to fixing Sombra seem to be a more reliable hack, fast run speed in stealth, and a more durable/invincible translocator.
liked already dude lol
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Revert the nerfs and give her higher base speed, timer skulls above hacked targets and either a small damage treshhold on hack, or let her reload during translocating.
Then fix her bugs, and she should be in a better spot.
If I add my opinion here :3
Sombras Problem right now are bugs, Consistandsi on Hack, Downtime from the speed nerf and teamplay
On how to fix these I talked about it in here: The 4-Step plan to buff Sombra (Facts and Opinions) and bug wise there are a lot more in 1.26 I talk about them here: Even more Sombra Bugs in 1.26/1.27/1.28 [With Video's] - #8 by SchWiniX-2357 and I want people to be awair of these.
I personally could live with TL at 5hp but it would be nice to be either higher or indestructible for enemies but its not needed for me (imo) atleast.
Invulnerable translocator is important for aggressive placements on high grounds around the point to increase uptime and to bait people to camp for an easy 6v5 teamfight. You could also use it to kite enemies. Its very important not only for reliability sake.
Yea Iâm aware of that but I think right now there are other and bigger reasons why she is in a bad state and I could still be effective without these so personally I set them more into background because I mostly use my TL in air to get instantly on high ground (by that I mean throwing it over the high ground and using it so it cant get destroyed), I use it to dodge DMG by throwing it and using it (for example: Doom combe, d.va ult and many more), sometimes just to bait shield Heros like rein, brig, etc to turn around by throwing it over them and destroying it just shortly after. I used this kind of playstyle on Sombra even before the nerfs so I never really had a huge problem with it and only rarely I use the medkit TL tactic are left my translocator out for long. Well, I used that strat after the team fight in hope to get a kill when the enemies where regrouping so not in a situation where they had a chance to destroy it.
As the New Sombra is far slower, youâre more likely to miss out on these Hack opportunities.
That is not a good comparison at all. If you spend more than 20 seconds out of a fight, your team has already lost.
Before the changes, Sombra could go 57.75 in 6 seconds. Meanwhile, that would take the current Sombra 7 seconds, which is 16.6% less efficient. Thatâs a nerf. If youâre traveling more than 57.75 meters, again your team has already lost the fight.
Iâm taking these experiences playing as and against GM/Top 500 Sombras. It is extremely easy to destroy an enemy Sombraâs Translocator. Youâre playing against bad players who canât kill your Translocator. Thatâs why your Translocator isnât being destroyed.
The only way to have our Translocator up reliably is to put it in a position where searching for it is less value than simply ignoring it. Those positions are much farther away and they decrease Sombraâs uptime.
No, they arenât. Youâre in denial because the people you play against arenât capable of doing 5dmg to an immobile object.
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It is needed because it helps with her uptime which is the most important thing. You might have developed a playstyle where you arent as reliant on it, but that also means you would limit her to your playstyle which makes the hero less versatile and weaker as a result.
Tomorrow I will reply correctly sorry its really late and im sleepy xD
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i have been spawn camping a lot as Sombra just to kill Zen and Ana players. sometimes the occasional Hanzo and Widow. Silver really lets you play Sombra
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What Sombra would spend 20 seconds out of an ongoing fight? None that Iâve seen. Also, you shouldnât be running 6s or 7s to an ongoing fight in any situation, because you have no excuse not to be in position before it starts. This would be true for pre- or post-rework Sombra, who both have extreme mobility. Again, melodrama, and now ignoring Sombraâs core design.
Funny how you can keep responding to my posts without actually reading them, much less refuting them. You donât even have arguments; you just repeat yourself as if I never said anything, and now youâve gotten desperate enough to pull SR. Yawn.
Hating the evidence wonât make it go away. You are negligibly slower for 6s, then much faster for any amount of time beyond 6s. Using Translocator properly will reduce travel time by the same amount for both versions, and is not relevant to this comparison.
âNeverâ is a strong word, and silly in this context. I could list a bunch of situations where I run for longer than 6s to get somewhere, or want to be in a position for more than 6s, but you could just play the rework and see for yourself. Mobility aside, infinite stealth also means youâre always undetected no matter where you go or how far it is, opening up Sombraâs travel route and flank options.
Nope, for a bunch of reasons. Feel free to read my previous posts. Literally nothing has changed about Sombraâs Translocator placement with the rework. You should still hide it as effectively as possible in a given situation. However, now you have the option to to recall it when itâs discovered, or frequently replace it in better spots to avoid this being a problem in the first place. If your Translocator gets destroyed as youâre engaging the enemy team, then 1) You placed it poorly and 2) An enemy is out of position destroying it and the fight is now 6v5 anyway.
I tend to discount any Sombra thread that keeps suggesting the 30 damage threshold. Itâs a terrible balance choice because it punishes some Heroes more than others, and a terrible design choice because itâs a messy and arbitrary approach to buffing stealth. Assuming it even needs a buff; Sombra really doesnât need to be any less punishable than she is now.