I have played SL on 2 different accounts and... uhhh

VanBust-1724 · January 27, 2021, 3:01pm

As a duo it’s hard if you are playing tank and heal. Your roles are there to support damage dealers so you put your trust into your random teammates. Supporting bad players is a waste of support, no?

From my experience it works much better when at least one of the duo can do some damage and the other one has a supporting role like tank/healer.

Shapeshifter-21359 · January 27, 2021, 3:05pm

Yeah, I wouldn’t say even 10, 15 straight losses is indicative of systemic changes within the game or community (though it is a fact a lot of the top of the ladder has been trimmed off, as hardcore players/HGC players have quit the game)

AZJackson made a forum post where he said he lost 16 ranked games in a row at the start of a season.

He is not just a random player or developer, he is a (high) Grand Master who has designed some of the heroes he’s playing and has intricate insider info of heroes and how they work.
Now imagine how far the rabbit hole could go for a regular gold player.

Any sample not counted in the thousands as far as wins/losses go is just random short term variance.

Like so many people here have already said over the years: Ranked is really nothing more than a grind.
Sometimes a very painful grind.

edit - added Jackson quote

SirFuzzi-1601 · January 27, 2021, 4:59pm

Almost like peoples’ suppositions that players are being boosted in stacks has some water to float on.

But listen to me prattle on! Preposterous balderdash! Boosting has never been an issue even once.

Tooton-1952 · January 27, 2021, 5:24pm

So you’re turning into me by crying “toxic” in that you can’t carry? Even worse if you were solo in this game. And I’d offer to help but you guys never accepted my offers so oh well

hunterbees44-1622 · January 27, 2021, 6:12pm

Game is ruined cause blizzard refuses to deal with all the trolling in this game. Players refusing to soak, ignoring objectives or just afking at base or in a bush. Everyone is quitting cause of this.

lucifer-1387 · January 27, 2021, 9:47pm

I’ve only seen #16 yet. I can’t download #1 to #15.
#16 is the same as #17.

As Anduin, you could improve this:

20% more AA.
More follow up on your tank, stick with him. Hooks means instant Chastise cast, even if it misses.
Use D more often.
Blessed Recovery means that you need to play more aggressively to get the full value.
Better comms with Blaze so he tells you when his E is ready for your ult.
Divine Star on minion waves whenever you can to speed up rotations.

phaseshifter-1283 · January 27, 2021, 10:08pm

Returning players.

You seem to have the same experienced I’m having, and the same badluck as having it consistently happening on your team rather then the enemy’s.

And this is why I wish rank decay applied to every rank. I can’t understand why they don’t want people to decay at all.

Sadius-21711 · January 27, 2021, 11:11pm

I will try to re-upload games later.

phaseshifter-1283 · January 27, 2021, 11:47pm

Blizzard can’t do anything about players being bad.

Drothvader-1215 · January 27, 2021, 11:48pm

It’s why lower ranks exist. You can’t fault someone for not being good at the game, but you can create a rank for them.

DrSuperGood-1327 · January 28, 2021, 12:32am

Considering I used to be holding my own in Platinum after playing almost exclusively Versus AI games, Platinum is still quite newbie.

AnaBanana-21274 · January 28, 2021, 12:55am

Understand that in a party with more then 1 smurf Harby plays one of his lesser heroes because he doesnt like to stomp with a party of smurfs

Also he told me that deckard never used ruby right. He didnt land his roots and he trowed his potions in the middle of the lane forcing people to pick them up with 99% health as they just moved
Muradin was never around so he had to solo tank as alarak vs a hanzo and a valla. In other words an horrible experience
The muradin and deckard were diamond and gold. The skillgap was too great between them and tbh he sucked as deckard

So this wasnt your fault

Tooton-1952 · January 28, 2021, 3:47am

I don’t understand why you reject players that would 5 man with you

Oh and I swear if I decayed to bronze I’d slap most bronze players down and no one would have fun. My teammates would still suck, I’d stomp, and it’d be a grind to get back up where I might just quit

waterlong-1416 · January 28, 2021, 4:13am

I feel like all the toxicity is the reason why elo hell exists. Noone is willing to learn and everyone is the only one whos right.

Tooton-1952 · January 28, 2021, 5:00am

It’s because there ARE horrible players in terms of gameplay. They shouldn’t be at my elo

Drothvader-1215 · January 28, 2021, 5:08am

But they are, so you have to ask yourself…

Tooton-1952 · January 28, 2021, 5:09am

I’m asked that before and nope they shouldn’t be at my elo. Otherwise why would you see the tons of frustrated players even a MASTERS account Sadius couldn’t carry with his premade TEAM. And believe me, they weren’t that bad premade teammates either since I know of one of them. For all we know phaseshifter could have used his smurf account too to further lower the elo

waterlong-1416 · January 28, 2021, 7:07am

Sadius-21711 · January 28, 2021, 10:47am

Re-posting games because

Yusuke-2949 · January 28, 2021, 10:53am

This is madness. Could you give me some examples how the general folks in this league is playing or if it’s easier what mistakes they do? I mean I am sitting in silver right now, but I already was in gold and tbh. I didn’t saw an improvement in the quality of my games at all. 95% of the games were just stomps from one side or another, that means, if my team has at least some basic understanding I usually stomp with them, but if not I can get exp/camp or pings as much I want it has no impact and we will get crushed, because teammates dies almost every minute. Now if I read your statement I realize my games wouldn’t change much, because as you say also platinum is “quite newbie”. That’s horrifing and sad.

Btw. this reasonings in this topic were the main reason to create my topic, where I proposed the idea of seasonal reset with bonus points for better players to keep those other ranks clear.