08/12/2018 08:07 PMPosted by QuercusCross-posting this from beta since beta 'bout to die:05/01/2018 03:52 PMPosted by Quercusand Highmountain Tauren (HmT) need more customization options overall.
HmT have the fewest customization choices bar none—fewer than any other allied race, fewer than any core/old race.
Compared to Dark Iron Dwarves (DID) and Mag'Har Orcs (MHO), HmT look embarrassingly unfinished. With the (arguable) exception of Void Elves, most of the pre-order allied races look blatantly phoned-in compared to DID and MHO. Before folks even get into gameplay, they first need to pick an avatar. It's a bad first impression when half of the "ooh-aah" featured new allied races look like rush jobs.
Blizz, since you're "concentrating on allied races", can you continue to work on HmT so they look up to par with DID and MHO?
At the very least, can you fix HmT customization so players like me who hate what you did with the WoD revamps can race change from vanilla Tauren? This wasn't an issue prior to 7.3.5 when I could use the old models, but you guys borked the WoD facelifts and it's a dealbreaker. You guys underestimate how important our avatars are to some people.
Suggestions:
add more face options - female HmT have only 4 face options, males only 5. Specifically add at least 1 face option for each sex with a mouth that looks like the old vanilla Tauren model, without the cleft upper lip. All HmT faces have the exact same sheep/camel/woodchuck/dog mouths. It's less deeply cleft on the males, but the females don't even look like the same species. Mouth should be like :] not :3
Heck, an actual moosey face would be cool, too. Big ol' pendulous schnozz to match the moose mounts!
add more skin color options - notably missing is a ghost/spirit white color. Additional colors should run from white to dun to cafe au lait like real moose and wapiti.
INB4: "gameplay blah blah...." They have different teams. Gameplay teams do not work on art and vice versa.
Reposting for posterity before wipe: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20769719664
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I've been on a few farms in my day and I can't tell one cow's face from another. Can you?
08/12/2018 08:08 PMPosted by Quercus05/01/2018 03:53 PMPosted by QuercusCurrently Available Face Options (8.0.1.27326)
Suggestion: add more face options for the race-sex combos with fewer than 7 choices so that the minimum number of choices for any race-sex is 7. More than that would be great, but 7 should be an easy target given that they added 3 new faces for each Blood Elf sex.
Why this matters: because 2 of the shiny new allied races have a pitiful number of face options, yet Blizzard found the resources to add 6 new faces (3 for each sex) to an old/core race.
Allied Races (avg of both sexes, ascending):
HmT female 4
HmT male 5
Nb female 6
Nb male 6
VElf female 8
VElf male 8
MHO fem 9
MHO male 9
LfD female 10
LfD male 10
DID fem 10
DID male 10
It's pretty sad that Highmountain Tauren and Nightborne have so few choices compared to the other allied races.
Just search "female Tauren mouth" and the preponderance of feedback is negative: https://www.google.com/search?q=female+tauren+mouth&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-ab
Core Races (avg of both sexes, ascending):
Tauren fem 4
Taur male 5
Troll fem 6
Troll male 5
Gnome fem 7
Gnome male 7
Goblin fem 10
Gob male 5
NElf fem 9
NElf male 9
Orc fem 9
Orc male 9
Worgen fem 14
Worgen male 5
Dwarf fem 10
Dwarf male 10
Draenei fem 10
Draenei male 10
Forsaken fem 10
For male 10
BElf fem 13
BElf male 13
Human female 15
Hum male 12
Pandaren female 20
Pand male 21
Tauren need styled manes
tauren mohawk please
tauren mohawk please
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Female Taurens need the 'determined look' face they had before the graphic update, not the dopey 'duh' faces they have now >.<
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Let me know when you find a farm with bipedal, 8 foot tall talking minotaur people and I'll get back to ya.11/12/2018 04:21 PMPosted by SnikrotI've been on a few farms in my day and I can't tell one cow's face from another. Can you?
The same could be said for pandas and wolves, yet both Pandaren and Worgen have more total faces. Weirdly, male Worgen, Trolls, and Goblins also only have 5 face options.
Customization totals (raw score) and avg number of choices per category (avg) prior to the addition of formerly-barbershop-only options to the start screen:
08/12/2018 08:10 PMPosted by QuercusAll Customization By The Numbers
Suggestion: prioritize adding options for race-sex combos with a raw score less than 40 and an average less than 7.Allied Races:(core updates bolded and italicized)
Alliance:
Lightforged Draenei female - skin 3, face 10, hair style 7, h color 5, horn style 6, tattoo 4, rune 6; raw score 41, avg 5.9
LfD male - skin 3, face 10, hair style 6, h color 5, facial 9, tattoo 4, rune 6; raw score 43, avg 6.1
Void Elf female - skin 6, face 8, hair style 10, h color 8, earrings 5; raw score 37, avg 7.4
VElf male - skin 6, face 8, hair style 12, h color 8, facial 8; raw score 42, avg 8.4
Dark Iron Dwarf female - skin 4, face 10, hair style 10, h color 6, accessories 7, tattoo 6; raw score 43, avg 7.2
DID male - skin 4, face 10, hair style 8, h color 6, facial 7, earrings 6, tattoo 6; raw score 47, avg 6.7
Horde:
Nightborne female - skin 3, face 6, hair style 6, h color 6, earrings 6, tattoo 4; raw score 31, avg 5.2
Nb male - skin 3, face 6, hair style 7, h color 6, earrings 7, tattoo 4; raw score 33, avg 5.5
Highmountain Tauren female - skin 4, face 4, horn style 5, h color 2, hair 5, tattoo 10; raw score 30, avg 5.0
HmT male - skin 4, face 5, horn style 5, h color 2, facial 5, tattoo 10; raw score 31, avg 5.2
Mag'Har Orc female - skin 10, face 9, hair style 8, h color 8, accessories 6; raw score 41, avg 8.2
MHO male - skin 10, face 9, hair style 8, h color 8, facial 7, posture 2; raw score 44, avg 7.3Core Races:
Neutral:
Pandaren female - skin 14, face 20, hair style 17, h color 12, earrings 6; raw score 69, avg 13.8
Pandaren male - skin 14, face 21, hair style 19, facial 31; raw score 85, avg 21.3
Alliance:
Human female - skin 10, face 15, hair style 19, h color 10, piercings 7; raw score 61, avg 12.2
Human male - skin 10, face 12, hair style 12, h color 10, facial 9; raw score 53, avg 10.6
Dwarf female - skin 9, face 10, hair style 14, h color 10, piercings 6; raw score 49, avg 9.8
Dwarf male - skin 9, face 10, hair style 11, h color 10, facial 11; raw score 51, avg 10.2
NElf female - skin 9, face 9, hair style 7, h color 8, markings 10; raw score 43, avg 8.6
NElf male - skin 9, face 9, hair style 11, h color 8, facial 6; raw score 43, avg 8.6
Gnome female - skin 5, face 7, hair style 7, h color 9, earrings 7; raw score 35, avg 7.0
Gnome male - skin 5, face 7, hair style 7, h color 9, facial 8; raw score 36, avg 7.2
Draenei female - skin 12, face 10, hair style 11, h color 7, horn 7; raw score 47, avg 9.4
Draenei male - skin 14, face 10, hair style 10, h color 7, facial 8; raw score 49, avg 9.8
Worgen female - skin 9, face 14, hair style 10, h color 5, ears 12; raw score 50, avg 10.0
Worgen male - skin 5, face 5, hair style 8, h color 5, facial 9; raw score 32, avg 6.4
Horde:
Orc female - skin 9, face 9, hair style 8, h color 8, piercings 7; raw score 41, avg 8.2
Orc male - skin 9, face 9, hair style 7, h color 8, facial 11; raw score 44, avg 8.8
Forsaken female - skin 6, face 10, hair style 10, h color 10, features 8; raw score 44, avg 8.8
Forsaken male - skin 6, face 10, hair style 10, h color 10, features 17; raw score 53, avg 10.6
Tauren female - skin 11, face 4, horn style 7, h color 3, hair 5; raw score 30, avg 6.0
Tauren male - skin 19, face 5, horn style 8, h color 3, facial 7; raw score 42, avg 8.4
Troll female - skin 6, face 6, hair style 5, h color 10, tusks 6; raw score 33, avg 6.6
Troll male - skin 6, face 5, hair style 6, h color 10, tusks 11; raw score 38, avg 7.6
BElf female - skin 10, face 13, hair style 14, h color 10, earrings 11; raw score 58, avg 11.6
BElf male - skin 10, face 13, hair style 11, h color 10, facial 10; raw score 54, avg 10.8
Goblin female - skin 9, face 10, hair style 12, h color 9, ears 11; raw score 51, avg 10.2
Goblin male - skin 9, face 5, hair style 14, h color 9, ears 11; raw score 48, avg 9.6
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All the cows I've ever seen all look, smell and taste the same!
I fully agree!
I do have trouble telling orcs apart though. ;)
Yes, actually. I can tell horses apart, too. And pretty much any animal (though wild animals are a bit harder). I'm an artist who kind of specializes in animal portraiture. ("Kind of" because I paint other things, too.) They really are different from each other.11/12/2018 04:21 PMPosted by SnikrotI've been on a few farms in my day and I can't tell one cow's face from another. Can you?
I do have trouble telling orcs apart though. ;)
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09/23/2018 05:08 PMPosted by QuercusWith the addition of customizations for Night Elves, I'm hoping more faces for both types of Tauren will be coming Soon™. And hopefully that'll include an unsheeped face :O
Only 4 faces :(
It's this easy, this simple:
1. https://i.imgur.com/jDjFB7I.jpg
2. https://i.imgur.com/i63Aa3n.jpg
3. https://i.imgur.com/s7Vy4lV.jpg
4. https://i.imgur.com/NKtLaEX.jpg
All races need more faces.
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You know it!
More customization for all categories would be nice, too ![:grimacing:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/grimacing.png?v=6" ":grimacing:")
Blizz, maybe you could make horn color change affect hoof color. Ex: keep the existing THREE options, and add THREE options which also change hoof color to match. This would give a whopping total of SIX options for the horn category. So many choices! Wowzers!
P.S. Thanks for the awesome new Highmountain moonkin form. It was worth the wait.
They definitely need some meaner faces.
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I’d be happy if I could have even just one face that didn’t have a camel lip and a brain-dead smile.
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A lot of races have same face issues. Blizz should do another customization pass on all the old races adding faces and more customization options like hair styles, scars, tattoos, tusk and horn options ect.
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At least buffing old races was kinda brought up in the last Q&A.
Blizz,
don’t let the rest of us down.
We’re the players who roll the less popular races.
We collectively still outnumber BElves and Humans.
Can someone else finally have a turn before you give the most popular race even more customization options?
I know balance isn’t your thing, but could you guys just give it the ol college try? Maybe work on the races with the fewest options first?
Tauren have faces? I thought the structures on the front of their head were just small horns arranged in human-like patterns.