Shadowlands non raid content is apparently a minigame for mythic raiders to abuse

That’s our Ralph.

every x pac gives crap rewards to people that don’t raid at the beginning.

even BC required arena for blues when it started, which was a bit similar.

its looking like buying the x pac midway thru could be a lot less grief…

have you gone into a random bg lately? which is casual content that is ruined by there being no pvp gear and mythic raid gear being the best gear in the game. do you have anything else you’d like to add mr i don’t think before i speak?

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Well this is exactly why I don’t pre order expansions anymore. I like to see how it all plays out. If it truly is just going to be a raid or die expansion then it will be a disaster. Warlords of Draenor was the last raid or die expansion and we consider it the worst expansion in WOW’s history.

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its the right of mythic raiders to stomp undergeared ppl its what its all about
if you cant do end game content you deserve to get stomped

I fully expect that whatever “catch up” there is will be bottlenecked by the requirement to grind all previous tiers. “Vendors” have strings attached that mean only elite players will benefit.

And this is why a game should not be designed to pander to a tiny minority that is being incentivized to destroy it.

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Nope not a mythic raider. Dabble in it when we clear heroic and the chest from m+ is better than heroic gear so I don’t know what you are even talking about. And if thats what you want then you should be championing that cause instead of crying that you can’t have mythic gear from doing not mythic or m+.

yes i do realize you expect the fact that slaying dragons should carry you through all other forms of content. there’s a word for that. think really hard what it is. but it’s not the casuals who are not good in this scenario, chief.

WoD was far from raid or die. If you pvped you had a clear advantage over raiders because raid gear actually got weaker in pvp.

if its such a small % you will never run into them in your casual content i see no problem

“Clear”? A small advantage. Now raiders have a huge advantage.

are you really not reading what i’m saying? i don’t give a flying crap about mythic raid gear. it should not be BiS for mythic+ or pvp though. i’ve said that over and over and over again. if you’re actually reading what i’m saying you’d understand that. but do continue to make yourself look like a fool because you’re too lazy to read the things you’re responding to.

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Remember back in Wrath when gear was so close in item levels there were like a 3 point difference?

The problem I see it as is Blizzard wants 2 sets of leveling in todays game.

  1. Level from 1-50. Start game.
  2. Level item level from x onward to progressive in game.

In early WoW #1 was say 90% of the game. In todays WoW its barely say 50%. Levin from 1-120 you went in level from 0 - say 266. Then end game started and you went from that 266 to what 470? You gained more power in that endgame than you did in leveling from 1-120.

Like you said, the gear level inflation is crazy in todays game. In term os limiting power, its like telling old WoW players you can pay for the full game, but you can only level to 30 (out of 60). To get those last 30 levels, you need to do specific things.

If you run dungeons, you can level to 35
If you run heroic dungeons you can level to 40
If you raid normal, you can level to 45
If you run Mythic dungeons you can level to 50
If you do heroic raiding you can level to 60.

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Or its just you thats super upset for some reason that you don’t have the same gear? Everyone wants someone else to suffer instead of trying to find a solution. WoD had the gearing system you are looking for but nah you would rather complain that someone else has better gear.

I’m sorry, but I’m absolutely sick of this guy’s threads and I’m even more upset that anyone is even remotely agreeing with him.

I hope folks like Ralph never, ever have a say in game design. Because that would utterly kill this game for anyone, period.

And if I get a forum vacation for expressing my utter disdain for these threads, so be it.

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Do you realize he has more then 1 thread on this subject .

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/shadowlands-non-raid-content-is-apparently-a-minigame-for-mythic-raiders-to-abuse/699349
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/everyone-should-have-a-path-to-progress-to-max-ilvl-gear-everyone/672208

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/why-are-casuals-paying-for-the-1-forced-‘raid-or-die’-in-shadowlands/693039/681

Same topic different names that is called spam and constantly doing it is trolling.
Currently he is attacking Blizzard.

Here is Ralph defending Blizzard

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-prilimary-made-for-rpg-fans-not-gogogo-esport-fans/597960

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/thank-you-blizzard-for-the-conduit-change/596534

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/the-game-isnt-only-for-mythic-raiders-their-opinion-isnt-more-valuable/596074
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/proven-right-once-again-wow-is-for-the-majority-not-hardcores/586510

Are you starting to see a pattern ?

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clear advantage in pvp. you’re arguing right now that pvp gear shouldn’t be as good as raid gear in pvp? just lol at you. lol at all of you wanting your raid gear to carry you through the entire game.

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You either did not play in WoD or you are just trying to downplay it so it seems better for you but raid gear got scaled down in pvp so if you had a full set of pvp gear you had a clear advantage over a raider.

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i was talking to my fiance while reading this thread that it was perfect in WoD but it was changed because raiders told people to no life ashran instead of doing the regular pve catch up mechanics to get into later tier raiding. which again was raiders ruining things for everyone else because they’re lazy.

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Usually he’s totally off base. But in this thread he’s mostly right, if you can get past the insulting rhetoric.

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