Raid Lockout Being Hijacked

My guild removed a player a player last night for being aggressive and toxic in raid. Tonight (our next raid night) he is hijacking our raid instance by afking in the zone preventing us from raiding. The player’s name is {removed}.

I’m sorry, Voodoomang, but anyone who was part of that raid has a right to that raid ID. Hopefully he’ll grow bored and leave, but we’re generally unable to assist directly, sorry.

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He’s just sitting in a pet battle afk and goading people that hes doing it.

Disruption / Harassment: Engage in any conduct intended to disrupt or diminish the game experience for other players, or disrupt operation of Blizzard’s Platform in any way, including:

Disrupting or assisting in the disruption of any computer used to support the Platform or any Game environment. ANY ATTEMPT BY YOU TO DISRUPT THE PLATFORM OR UNDERMINE THE LEGITIMATE OPERATION OF ANY GAME MAY BE A VIOLATION OF CRIMINAL AND CIVIL LAWS.

Harassment, “griefing,” abusive behavior or chat, conduct intended to unreasonably undermine or disrupt the Game experiences of others, deliberate inactivity or disconnecting, and/or any other activity which violates Blizzard’s Code of Conduct or In-Game Policies.

Directly from Blizzard ToS. how is this not applicable? please elaborate

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It’s his raid instance too.

That would be things like DDoS and doing things to affect server stability.

It doesn’t apply here. Because you invited him it’s his raid lockout too.

Edit:
I’m not trying to diminish how frustrating it is, but he isn’t really breaking the rules.

Have someone stay outside the raid instance. if he contacts you again, tell him you’re going to do something else, like another raid or mythic. If he leaves the raid, your guy standing outside can get in to get your instance back.

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He has Raid ID acess hes allowed to form his own raid and continue it or just sit in there.

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It is mythic. thats how hes blocking us from playing. Its not like “oh we have to go clear some heroic bosses for no loot to catch up” we cant even zone in to mythic raid

You can either call the nite a bust or just keep trying id also put him on ignore and have everyone do it in case it turns into harassment.

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“Disruption” tends to be more disruptive. Tends to relate more to interfering with the ability to play the game as a whole, not just one part of it.

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Ya I guess doing something for the sole purpose of wasting 20 peoples time isn’t griefing or disruptive.

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Because the players don’t define what is and isn’t against the ToS, often because they’ll just slap it on whatever they don’t like.

Someone kill you in a BG? Re-portable!
Someone wins an item you wanted? Re-portable!
Not get taken to a raid you wanted to do? Re-portable!

TL:DR; you can point to the ToS all day long, but Blizz is the one whom defines what is and isn’t. Someone sitting in a raid doesn’t fall under that ruling. Because folks can do other raids/wings or even doing dungeons. There’s no rule stating you can’t sit in a raid with a raid ID.

  1. You’re the one whom invited him to do the raid and place him on the raid ID.
  2. He as a right to the raid ID.
  3. Blizz isn’t going to force someone out a raid because you don’t like them anymore.
  4. Trying to use the ToS to fit whatever meaning you want it to mean to get what you want don’t make Blizz magically do it.
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Thus would be correct. He has every single right to this raid lockout as he was a part of the group. The fact he got there first is of little consequence.

There is no rule that says what he has to dkk with this lockout. He could sit j there all day until reset if he wants to. Itnis his lockout as well after all.

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