I understand what you’re saying, but we’re suckers to buy stuff. The cycle continues.
hahaha I probably am a sucker for buying into most of their optional stuff. I just can’t help myself if I see a cute piggy mount or the fey dragon. Bonus if they’re all on sale. I love this game and I’m happy to support it in any way I can.
the game is 16 years old.
we’re only seeing a (teeny) price rise in sub costs for the very first time in the history of the game.
do you think sub costs would have remained unchanged for this long, without the store?
…but it’s not a problem.
in fact, it’s so much not a problem, that players are constantly asking for more store additions.
and to expand on that, every time a major catastrophe happens, fire/earthquake etc… people start screaming for blizz to make a “charity” pet, because they pretend they want to “donate” to the cause, but don’t want to “donate” unless an unrelated entity offers an incentive to open their wallets for people in need.
…but the last time blizz did this, people were outraged that a cap was put on the donations… because how dare the company facilitating the donation take a cut!
everything you’ve linked is just… opinions.
biased, one-sided opinions.
yeah… and people are also claiming the celestial steed is the fastest mount obtainable in the game.
soooo… yeah.
to be fair, you’re kinda rambling.
i’m not catching everything
That’s how I usually support the game too if they got something I am interested in.
pay 50$ for the game, on top of that another 15$ a month. An in-game shop is just crossing the line at that point.
But do you really have to put up with the microtransactions being in games? do you really have to put up with the content carving and all that jazz the video game industry does? Like honestly?
I wasn’t asking you. And even then, that’s not an explanation of how microtransactions support the game and why we need them.
You mean the Australia increases back in Dec 15th? Because i’m looking at the shop right now in the launcher and it’s still 12.99 to 14.99 depending on which you buy here. Plus Tax.
How do you know that if we don’t have microtransactions, prices will go up?
Heck, were seeing that newer games are gonna cost $70 on next gen consoles, and they aren’t gonna rid of microtransactions. What do they need the $70 for if a price hike isn’t going to get rid of the microtransactions? What can they possibly need more money for at this point if they need that and MTX?
You can deny it all you want, but it still is a problem. Just because it’s normal, doesn’t make it any less of a problem.
Multiboxing for example …(F a l s e e q u i valency!!!! ) … while im okay with it, i recognize people had a problem with it even though it’s normal and still exists, despite the software being banned. You don’t catch me here pretending there isn’t a problem here just because i’m okay with it.
And they are supporting a terrible practice.
Charities doesn’t justify the existence of microtransactions at all.
Everything you just said to me is just opinions.
Plus i’ve never seen you link anything to back up your arguments here.
Pot meet Kettle.
“I’m gonna deny it because i have to laser focus on this one person or one piece of the article said that something stupid! ”
Well that is your fault for not acknowledging how hypocritical you’re being right now. Not acknowledging it doesn’t mean the problem goes away.
I don’t care personally. My favorite toy of all time was purchased from the shop - while I would have rather gotten it in game - I wouldn’t wanna risk having to do pet battles or something to get it.
It’s like shopping at a mall looking at cool cosmetics. I’m also do it to support the company as well to show some appreciation for their visuals. If I don’t like it I won’t buy it.
Like Evolve?
This game also came to mind here because Twochainz said that Cosmetic Microtransactions support the game, and i just remembered that game’s support stopped after it went F2P in 2016. It did have an eyebleeding amount of cosmetic MTX on there.
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you’re posting in a forum… anyone can respond to you.
i mean the price rises which impacted almost everyone… there was a sticky thread on it, i don’t have stickies enabled, so i don’t know if it’s still there.
(skipping responding to all the pointless argumentative waffle which was here)
one of the biggest problems with multiboxing, is that people don’t know what it is.
they hate something because they’ve been told to.
they don’t understand it, they don’t know how it works, they don’t know what it looks like, they just don’t understand… and yet they still have very strong opinions about it.
what am i going to link?
none of the stuff you’ve linked has been relevant to advancing the conversation.
maybe get to the point, and people wouldn’t skim.
all you’re doing is repeating the same thing over and over… in ever-increasing paragraphs.
If it got the visuals that appeals to the consumers eyes. They will buy them heck I wouldn’t mind a magical girl outfit on this goblin.
I only check the store for a flight whistle…and discounted pets.
Well i wasn’t asking you personally about the question, but fair enough.
I did say this here in the event if you do think i’m asking you.
You mean these here?
Umm… how’s Canada and Australia is almost everyone?
Of coarse you skip that one. You don’t know, so your just throwing out the “Oh your just arguing to argue” excuse here.
You know, i might actually agree with you on this one. I think it puts in perspective here for both multiboxing and microtransactions for people to be educated on the matter here. Not agree or disagree, just be educated on, because if they are disagreeing or agreeing, they are educated on it the very least.
As i said before, i was educated on what the microtransactions are because i was native and silly before. Now i know what they are, i dislike them now, because i’ve learned the facts about them on how they were designed and how it got me thinking they were once harmless. And honestly, that’s how a lot of people hate microtransactions.
Why you think it’s bad thing to educate people on microtransactions here, i don’t know.
Well you’re refusing to educate yourself on microtransactions and why people dislike them, so why are you defending them? Why you have an opinion then? By your own logic, you shouldn’t have an opinion. This has to apply both ways, not just to one side that hates it and the side who loves it gets a free pass. That’s being biased. That’s play favorites here.
Proof that microtransactions are good for gaming or support the games?
Because so far, i linked articles that proved they are bad. I’m not seeing you making a case for them why they are good.
And you’re doing the thing where you think everything i said is irrelevant. That’s pretty bad when you have to do that.
That is not my fault if people choose to skim. They choose to skim because apparently think they can’t sit down and read for 5 minutes, when they clearly can sit down and read for 5 minutes.
Even if i shorten my comments, people even demonstrated they won’t even read it or address the points and just go after the very minor thing, so what’s the point of shortening it then?
Pot meet Kettle.
I wasn’t talking about the visuals. I could care less about the pretty artwork that goes into the microtransactions.
You saying “it’s like shopping at a mall looking at cool cosmetics” happens to remind me of what Jim Sterling said about Evolve’s launch with the excessive amount of DLC, which by the way, was heavily slammed against for at launch, not just jim sterling but a lot of people had a problem with that game, and the excessive cosmetic MTX was one of the major problems of that game at launch. That and with Twochains four bracelets said that “Cosmetic MTX supports games”, i bring this up, because this game died 1 year after it’s release because of that first impression.
I’d argue you still are.
Gosh, that seems awfully biased of you twochains, if i hate the microtransactions, that means i’m naive and silly. But if i love them, that means i’m educated.
And you wonder why your thread is flagged. Rules for thee, not for twochainz.
Ahh I see, but you gotta look at other games that does it better. GW2, FFXIV, ESO etc etc.
Doesn’t matter. Truth hurts in the end that Blizzard and other platforms follows this concept won’t stop doing it.
Well i’m sorry, i just don’t take it into consideration as much anymore.
I understand you like the MTX because how cool they look, and you know what? They do look pretty dang awesome.
But that’s the thing, they look awesome so you can spend money on it, and i just don’t dig that anymore. Look at the post where i have talked about when i was young and dumb. Back in TF2, i wanted those hats because they look amazing. (That and i don’t want to be a Free 2 Play player, because in that game at the time, F2P is seen as a bad thing to be. This is the haves and haves not here.) I regretted doing that after i learned what they are all about, i spent over thousand dollars because i wanted to look cool. And that honestly angers me how this trick and this culture it has created worked on me.
And people are still gonna call it out and be against it, regardless of who’s doing it.
And you do know it’s obvious that Twochainz hasn’t created a thread to discuss on why it’s flagged? It’s not about him having an opinion, it’s about how he’s going about with his opinion on why he’s flagged.
It’s all about managing your money when it comes down to that. Buy what you like for now and save for later.
You can’t get upset at their hustle as well because I too would be the same if I can get consumers to buy my concepts
That’s true, but it’s not going to stop these companies anytime soon.
And you know it doesn’t work that way? Come on don’t be that slow, if you every had a job working projects you would easily come to the conclusion. Also yes, the designers that work on mounts do so for in game and shop.
Well i did build myself an awesome computer. I’m getting a Dualshock 4 controller tomorrow, because i’m gonna be playing more PS2 games on 1080p 60fps.
Why can’t i? Serious question, why am i not allowed to be upset with that?
I don’t know, i can think of a couple examples off of my head here on times where people’s backlash has affected change to the microtransactions. Like Shadow of War’s and EA’s Battlefront 2’s lootboxes, the latter that even got politicians involved.
Also Diablo 3’s auction house. If there wasn’t a backlash to any of these, they things will still be there.
I am gonna head to bed here now. If you need more reading material, i suggest you using the googler or go though my comments here for the links, i have linked aplenty a-pears.
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