Monks get Buffed and Paladins Get nerfed

[Dracarian-medivh]

@Kaivax

• Monk
• Windwalker
  • Conduit of the Celestials: Strength of the Black Ox damage increased by 100%.
  • Conduit of the Celestials: Flight of the Red Crane damage increased by 100%.
  • Conduit of the Celestials: Courage of the White Tiger damage increased by 35%.
  • Fists of Fury damage increased by 20%.
  • Blackout Kick damage increased by 8%.
  • Flurry of Xuen damage increased by 40%.
  • Courageous Impulse now increases the damage of your next Blackout Kick by 200% (was 125%).
  • Shadowboxing Treads now increases the damage of Blackout Kick by 20% (was 10%) and causes additional Blackout Kicks at 80% effectiveness (was 70%).
  • Developers’ notes: We’re looking to increase Windwalker’s overall performance in AoE and single target through targeted adjustments to a few baseline spells, as well as to push some underrepresented talents for increased build diversity.
• Mistweaver
  • Conduit of the Celestials: Courage of the White Tiger damage increased by 35%.
• Paladin
• Protection
  • Lightsmith: Divine Inspiration’s chance to proc an Armament decreased by 50% for Protection specialization.
  • Lightsmith: Divine Guidance damage reduced by 20% for Protection specialization.
  • Lightsmith: Forge’s Reckoning damage reduced by 15% for Protection specialization.
  • Refining Fire damage reduced by 10%.

Well, ya’ll asked them to fix it. Enjoy it.

[Vladikov-eonar]

What do those have to do with eachother?

Brewmaster Monk wasn’t touched despite needing attention.

[Dracarian-medivh]

@Vladikov-eonar

Brewmaster Monk wasn’t touched.

I never mentioned BM. They were the two biggest complaints on this forum for the past ten days. NERF PALLY! BUFF MONK! Well… it’s here.

[Vladikov-eonar]

Right, I’m wondering what point you are making about dps monk buffs and prot pally nerfs.

[Dracarian-medivh]

Well, let me simplify it…

Monks got a buff, cause folks demanded it.
Paladins got a nerf, cause folks demanded it.

Once they roll the changed into the game, they will actually fix nothing, and the same people will be back here “complaining”.

[Moondoggíe-faerlina]

ping pong paladins ride never ends

[Sendryn-sentinels]

@Dracarian-medivh

Well, ya’ll asked them to fix it.

No one asked for that, though?

@Dracarian-medivh

Monks got a buff, cause folks demanded it.
Paladins got a nerf, cause folks demanded it.

People asked for Ret to be nerfed and Brewmaster to be buffed.

Neither of those that you posted are what anyone asked for.

[Vladikov-eonar]

@Sendryn-sentinels

People asked for Ret to be nerfed and Brewmaster to be buffed.

To be fair WW was in a terrible place and there’s been a lot of feedback on them needing buffs.

I just took the OP as making some sort of complaint or comparison between the tuning when they aren’t the same role.

But I guess they were just reposting the notes for no particular reason.

[Dracarian-medivh]

@Sendryn-sentinels

No one asked for that, though?

Hey, not my circus, not my clowns. Their algorithm pumped out some weekly report to get a feel for who was griping about what. This is the result

[Ayesha-black-dragonflight]

Exactly their point, I think.

Blizz can’t remember which spec does what lol

[Lìvía-moon-guard]

Dunno about how paladins work but 50% decrease seems excessive.

Can’t they balance in increments?

[Ayesha-black-dragonflight]

Nah, 100% .

Gotta make sure they don’t even pick lightsmith anymore.

To be fair if they think its such a big part of the issue that makes them so OP, may as well just remove it.

[Sendryn-sentinels]

@Dracarian-medivh

Hey, not my circus, not my clowns.

My dad used to say “not my monkeys, not my circus.” And we just found a craft beer named that.

[Adelphie-proudmoore (Adelphie)]

@Sendryn-sentinels

People asked for Ret to be nerfed and Brewmaster to be buffed.

Neither of those that you posted are what anyone asked for.

Why would they nerf ret when it’s middle of the pack? Why wouldn’t they buff WW when it’s at the bottom?

[Sendryn-sentinels]

@Adelphie-proudmoore

Why would they nerf ret when it’s middle of the pack?

I think it was PvP complaints. But there were a bunch of threads outraged that Ret was somehow Blizz’s favorite child. lol

@Adelphie-proudmoore

Why wouldn’t they buff WW when it’s at the bottom?

I never said they shouldn’t?

[Athcaelas-cairne]

There has been WW complaints about being the worst dps class. Not a ton, but they have been around. There’s also been a few nerf paladin posts as per usual.

[Dracarian-medivh]

@Sendryn-sentinels

Neither of those that you posted are what anyone asked for.

Ok, time to correct that:

Nerf paladins already

This is ridiculous now. You guys cried and cried about shaman and they nerfed the hell out of them. now paladins are running completely and insanely OP and its nothing but crickets.

Prot Paladin is absolutely broken

As a 630ilvl 2970io brewmaster main - prot paladin needs to have major nerfs done to it. the dmg throughput is absolutely obnoxious, the survivability and utility are also obnoxious and I have no idea how this ‘reworl’ got thru testing as it is and yet brewmaster remains in the state it is. Unreal

Prot nerf when

Top 20 M+ ladder 19 Prot Paladins.

Another m+ season with one tank insanely overperforming

How can you not learn from your mistakes? We have had VDH for the last 2 seasons who overperformed like crazy and made other tanks look like a joke and now we have absolutely the same situation with Ppal. Buff underperforming tanks PROPERLY for once and there you go. But who cares.

Paladins need a massive nerf

insane burst both ranged and melee + full damage in bubble + divine steed because why not give them a spell that checks the only counterplay they ever had: kiting

So, while you are picking these apart and dismissing them, I will be cruising through other threads.

[Yamarãja-malganis]

Excellent. They should still fix BM which is the most broken tank, but prot paladin needed to be pulled back. And the blood buffs are good, they were falling behind also, but this doesn’t seem like they’re overbuffing it like they did with pal.

[Sendryn-sentinels]

@Dracarian-medivh

So, while you are picking these apart and dismissing them

Only the SoD ones, because that’s not Retail.

I don’t check the class forums, so that’s on me. And the threads I’ve seen on GD were about Ret and Brew— but I don’t know all threads! So thanks for sharing.

[Dracarian-medivh]

@Yamarãja-malganis

They should still fix BM

I don’t disagree. I love my monk but shelved him the minute he folded like 1 ply toilet paper against 3 mobs. If they would simply take the best performing tank, DPS, and healer, and then create stylized flavor for each so that each class had the same type and number of abilities, then EVERYONE would be welcome in +12s and not just Pallies, Shammies, and Disc Priests.