If You Call Deadmines "VC", You're Wrong

[Araharuken-altar-of-storms]

You got proof you played beta? No? You can’t supply proof nor back up claims? Alrighty then

[Thequixote-staghelm (Thequixote)]

If your looking for some rule to justify a change due to a naming conflict, Dire Maul is more relevant to end game so it takes precedence.

In vanilla people would say DM and I knew they meant Dire Maul. In fact I might have run DM before I even knew VC was an instance.

[Conyo-pagle]

People who call DM “VC” are the same people who call Druids “Dudu’s”

[Woopee-mankrik]

You all care about this way too much. It’s not healthy.

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

This was debated back and forth in chat on my server, the general conclusion was that if someone is too incompetent to look at the level of the person asking for a DM group they aren’t worth grouping with anyways.

[Negativezero-ashkandi]

VanCleef is his last name sir. You seem to be in full blown contrarian nitpick mode. As usual, this backfires.

His first name is Edwin. Why are you even trying to attempting to argue against that?

Since his first name is Edwin, then anyone using the Abbreviation VC is point blank wrong. Van is not his first name so why say it?

If you want to argue using last names then how about I point out that a character name has the realm name attached as the last name then start arguing the characters first name doesn’t matter. Same concept.

[Eidolona-grobbulus]

This is the dumbest argument in history and people who insist on continuing it disappoint me to no end.

“LFM DM”
shift-click
Raptorjeans Level 19 Warrior.

GEE. THEY MUST NEED DEADMINES.

“LFM DM.”
shift-click
Rawr Level 57 Druid.

GEE. THEY MUST NEED DIRE MAUL.

[Jaratus-moon-guard]

People were calling Deadmines VC long before Dire Maul was released, kiddo. Maybe don’t go spouting off about something you never played.

[Huggs-pagle]

And you’re a panda…

[Beaupeep-draka (Beaupeep)]

You know, Deadmines is one word, so you could just called it D.

I dunno, saying “Healer looking for D” just doesn’t sound right.

[Reeth-bloodsail-buccaneers]

This is why we have Retail today.

[Caelia-uldaman (Caelia)]

Have to make that gold somehow.

[Mickymoo-black-dragonflight]

This is the dumbest argument in history

No it isn’t. I’ve had dumberer.

[Calidge-bloodsail-buccaneers]

I like pineapple on pizza.

[Herky-benediction]

OP is completely correct. It’s not VC, It’s EV for Edwin VanCleef. Now also accepting CC for Cookie’s Cove.

[Dauntless-medivh]

Calling Deadmines “VC” is incorrect. You don’t call Stratholme “RD”, or Molten Core “Rag”. So why would you call Deadmines “VC”?

You called deadmines DM if you weren’t including vancleef. If you were doing vancleef, you called it a VC run. I remember this very clearly. He was higher level than the rest of the zone and would usually be red to groups.

[Vokire-cenarion-circle]

Deadmines or Diremaul?

To add, I remember a player in early vanilla explaining VC as meaning Van Cleef and that their reasoning for using VC instead of DM is because not everyone wanted to do a full run/clear of Deadmines back in the day. VC was a rapid way to identify a full run/clear.

Deadmines or Diremaul?

Doubt if you want. I distinctly remember leveling on Firetree and it was common to see people refer to it as VC or DM. I fully believe you never saw it if you only played on one server. I server hopped a few times a year back then, and there were certainly differences in culture between servers. To add, I actually found a specific example of on Firetree http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-general/2783488.htm Poster: Eirodin at 4/24/2005 7:05:22 PM PDT Subject: Firetree crashed Just lo…

Deadmines or Diremaul?

It’s shockingly annoying haha. It’s especially amazing because servers were much more unique in their individual cultures, and I would imagine players would have recognized the server uniqueness over a decade later. I’m not referencing those posts as the proper (read: only) way to refer to The Deadmines. I’m referencing those posts to show proof VC existed as a reference to The Deadmines and that it could be considered common (frequency is less relevant than the fact that people did, factuall…

Deadmines or Diremaul?

The earliest known, within this thread, instance of VC referring to The Deadmines is presented above. Dire Maul was released March, 2005 (March 7th, I believe). Your claim is rejected evidence shows existence of the term “VC” referring to The Deadmines prior to release of Dire Maul.

Deadmines or Diremaul?

Not to reignite the issue, I was looking up a separate function and found an in-game support webpage from Blizzard for WoW: What are some common terms and acronyms in the World of Warcraft? DM: Is short for “Dire Maul”. VC: Stands for Van Cleff and is used to refer to “The Deadmines”. When I read through and found that I thought it was amusing considering the strong feelings had from both sides in this thread. It points to VC being a common, if not preferred, acronym for The Deadmines. Th…

I’m happy I was able to debate this topic before and provide time relevant reference points/data. VC and DM are both appropriate and have been used since World of Warcraft closed beta. For those saying that’s not what we did in vanilla or day 1 players used, you are factually wrong.

[Pelinal-goldrinn]

I’ll repeat it once more
People calling Deadmines = VC, are dedicated Discord group Sheitposters from Private servers and retail who claims 2 be Vanilla players, but they aren’t.

Said group also abused the old forum system to meme the #nochanges fallacy into reality.

[Vokire-cenarion-circle]

I’ll repeat it once more
People calling Deadmines = VC, are dedicated Discord group Sheitposters from Private servers and retail who claims 2 be Vanilla players, but they aren’t.

Said group also abused the old forum system to meme the #nochanges fallacy into reality

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You are literally wrong. If you would actually read, like my very detailed responses to another thread on this topic, you would see you are completely wrong.

[Rodbert-windseeker]

Sorry, but people did call Deadmines VC in Vanilla… and DM. It was stupid then too. The majority of people forming a Deadmines group are doing so in Westfall General chat. If you are so stupid that you think a Westfall group is forming a Dire Maul group in that zone, then you’re way too stupid to bother grouping with. It’s DM.