It entirely depends on how the data was obtained. We have zero methods and materials for these polls. Are the people who conducted them pro-RDF or anti-RDF? Is there implicit bias in the sample? Quick question for you, is WiLLE pro-RDF? or anti-RDF? Has he made videos criticizing this decision? If yes… then is it really that shocking that the people who are pro-RDF voted so favorably in that poll?
The problem with using this sort of data like this and presenting it as scientific, is that you’re in no way being scientific or critical in your evaluation of it.
So if they place a poll on wowprogress about whether the devs should prioritize PvP in the game, you don’t think that sample will in anyway be biased against PvP? What about vice versa? Getting a sample off one of the more popular PvP websites about whether the devs put too much focus on PvE? What about a Raider.io sample to discuss raiding?
You’re saying those are all representative samples of the content they’re supposedly representing? Afterall… they all play the game?
Also… how did you confirm that anyone in those polls actually play the game?!
Wow, people arguing about the validity of these polls because the results don’t match what they want. Shocking.
People don’t seem to understand what a sample poll is. By the way, 28k is a HUGE sample relative to the size of Classic’s playerbase. Much higher percent than is standard.
People will argue the fact, even if RDF is over turned. People will argue and argue until they can’t anymore and then they will argue some more. It is all pointless and it’s why I don’t see this place as having any value to talking about RDF topics.
Yes, people come here to argue. This is the WoW forums, and that’s why it exists. There’s no actual dialogue here. No back and forth of ideas. No open mindedness or willingness to even conceptualize the other side’s perspective. It’s just arguing to argue.
What astounds me is Blizzard’s ability to create this drama. They made this an issue. It really takes talent to manufacture this kind of chaos and turmoil out of thin air. It almost seems like they just want the playerbase angry and at each other’s throats. Why do they make issues out of things that aren’t issues? They did the same thing with flying.
FFS Blizzard, you had a clear cut winner in Wrath Classic. All you had to do was NOTHING. And you couldn’t manage that.
I just think the forums and a few other places are a hamster wheel for these discussions. I can have a perfectly civil talk on these subjects other places but if I try here well other posters can’t handle it (and I sometimes can’t reading their posts. I’m not perfect, far from it.) Some people go out of their way to troll and it isn’t a good environment for anything but pure chaos. And I find it funny that this is where we are supposed to talk about these subjects. Blizzard directs us here for feedback. Just why?
I think they are trying to correct the a problem that was seen by many as a reason the game started to be less about the mmorpg aspects that made the game fun, to me at least, in the first place.
You’re correct, A or B isn’t all that satisfactory in a case like this is it. There are ways to implement group finding without trashing the classic feeling of the game. RDF with a server only option I think is a good solution.
Lower pop realms definitely need help and maybe sharding for those servers is the best answer, but I remember hating sharding on my original vanilla account. It was like playing with a bunch of ghosts that would vanish the moment the dungeon was over. For me at least, once that happened I stopped caring about logging in and quit.
Why sully the first couple patches with something that didn’t exist until almost the last content patch though. That’d be like having the sunwell badge vendor up in P1!
Yeah, people like to purposefully misconstrue the vernacular.
Blizz wouldn’t be adding LFD to Wrath. It’s already part of Wrath. They simply wouldn’t be removing it. That would be the proper way to describe the situation.
The polls you linked are easily manipulated i could vote multiple times on them with a vpn, or set up a bot program to do it thosands of times, heck the polls could be rigged from setup if the maker is bias and make it so for every “no” vote, it will automatically generate a “yes” vote, heck an outside bot can be made to do this as well.
Everyone loves linking polls as evidence, yet all of the polls they link can easily be manipulated.
