Dual Spec.. please?

This is exactly the point you’re missing though.

We didn’t come back to TBC because all the changes made in Retail were good. We came back because we liked it when the game took more effort and didn’t hand you everything on a silver platter.

You might have enjoyed Wrath more, and you’ll get your chance to play Wrath with all of Wrath’s ‘improvements’ when Wrath comes out.

Right now, we’re in TBC.

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LoL OK.

“I am right, you are wrong.”

And they said they were open to changes, and this was the best change LK had after years of needing it in TBC

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That’s your opinion. It’s not the opinion of most players, based on lack of “huge numbers of upvotes” or “many people chiming in with agreement”.

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This is objectively incorrect, the PvE heroes trolling these forums are a VERY VERY small percentage of the player base.

However there have been two polls so far and they come out to 80/20 in favor of dual spec.

[citation needed]

If you’re going to claim “objectively” then you have to provide facts. Subjectively, judging by the thread, it’s a valid statement.

I’m sure the PVP edgelords appreciate your support :rofl:

Check the sheer numbers of threads, combined with the two polls that were 80/20 in favor of dual spec. It is a large large majority that are not satisfied with respecs in it’s current state.

Where were these polls conducted? Link?

Nah.

Players will be even more closed off to each other than they already are with dual spec.

too bad baddie

Elaborate.

I’m going to assume that the silence on the polls means we don’t have to provide evidence.

So the 17 polls “I saw” said 99% of respondants didn’t want Dual Spec.

https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwowtbc/comments/kn3cie/double_spec_in_tbc/

Already did the whole sample size argument, not going to get into it again.

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There hasn’t been a single poll that shows less than 60% in favor of Dual Spec. It doesn’t matter where the poll is hosted, the result is the same.

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We all have an opinion as to when “retail” began. Some consider BC retail, others not until WoD. I think you’ll find the vast majority consider the trilogy part of the “classic” game and everything after as retail. It’s ok to hold a distinct minority view, I often do, but one should know when they hold a minority view.

I don’t think this is a thing…


Umm Mhmm… dual spec and looking for dungeon aren’t non retail features in my opnion.

At this point in time, I suspect that most people would agree with that.

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I don’t understand what you mean here. There’s a fine line between bringing back the complete classic experience and bringing back a classic game and changing a few things for a modern era. Duel spec was a fantastic addition to the game without any drawbacks. There isn’t any argument to not have it other then “It wasn’t in TBC, I don’t like it.”

It allows players to engage with the game in a more enjoyable manner and that’s what counts at the end of the day. Farming primals as a healer blows, no matter how much people might not want to admit it. Spending 100g to respec for arena feels terrible, and also directly relates to higher BG Q times.

That may be true. Yet at the same time I suspect most people would consider wrath not retail and that was your statement I was addressing. People are frequently inconsistent.

Maybe. I have no claim to how I would suspect anything that represents “most.”

Wrath certainly isn’t/wasn’t TBC. If that’s a different statement from a claim then maybe I would care to dispute it, but at this point, I’m actually leaning towards TBC being Retail in that it certainly has more Retail features than Vanilla did, and the discussions around adding more are definitely happening, though they seem to be fruitless.

You don’t need to rely on as many players as you would currently if you can just dual spec.

Raiders could be more closed off in this way.

well lv. 11 monk in WOTLK classic you and a lot of people will be really happy when it is in game