I believe someone said the right response to that argument, up above.
You want it. Sure. You haven’t actually provide a justification for it besides “I want it, and life is hard.”
50G in TBC is far easier than it was in Classic, yet they didn’t reduce the cost. Gold in TBC flows from the heavens and if you stopped worrying about it and just focused on doing the work to get the gold, this would be a non-issue.
Changing the respec cap to be a ‘non-thing’ would 100% change the meta.
You’re really trolling hard.
Literally arguing that Retail is better than Classic because it’s newer. I mean… if that’s the case, why is anyone playing Classic?
Great if you have had the same idea.
“right” depends on the personal opinion I guess!
I actually gave some, you are just either not willing to read or to accept them as.
With that argument you could also say “50S is fine”.
As much as the lua changes did in classic and now in TBC.
You don’t want it, that’s fine, so already 2 people are against it. One of them probably a booster and gold seller. No other explanation could fit into it.
Nope, I just said that the decision they made 15 years ago got reverted 12.5 years ago because it turned out, that it was a bad one. Not going with the wishes of the community. They made that decision during TBC (and implemented it with Wrath) because a lot of people back then (as today) are asking for it.
50G being less because of inflation is not a reason dual spec is bad. Still waiting on a reason…
Only that it solves more problems while creating less, and only seems reasonable predicated on the idea that deterring respecc’ing is a design flaw, which it clearly isn’t, since it is demonstrably intended design.
The intended design 15 years ago. The intended design 17 years ago was to implement an open lua api that allow people to automate their gameplay. But somehow that hasn’t made it into the game 2019. Why? Because they decided later on, that it was bad for the game… So they learned from the past - why not this time?
Citation?
it’s not on them to give a reason why it’s bad. you guys are the ones asking for the change. its on you to give a reason as to why this change must be considered.
Good thing they switched that decision.
No citation needed, the api was completely open, no function that was able to automate the game was protected and “addon bot” (like combat routines) were already a thing during beta.
There were also gms and devs who played with automated addons for hunter pets for example.
And we already did! They are against it but not naming a single real reason why.
We have entire threads about, feel free to go to the first post of this thread. Or any of the other ones.
Just to be clear the all the people opposing it are just creating troll posts, we are literally asking them to come up with any reason.
Status Quo is the default state. 50G is fine, because it was what we had. Your argument that “50s is fine too” doesn’t apply because it isn’t the status quo.
I don’t think you understand what ‘meta’ means.
No, people just usually don’t wade into nonsense arguments when they assume that the person won’t listen (like is being seen here), so you’ll find that most people don’t want dual spec, and only the people who do want it are vocal about it, because the non-vocal ones already have what they want.
I only originally got involved to point out the historical aspect of the design.
They did. In Wrath. And in 2 years they’ll repeat that change.
In Vanilla. We are not in Vanilla here. TBC Retail had the Secure Frames setup like we do now, so your argument is a non-change.
Good thing as humans we have the ability of foresight, and don’t need to wait 2 years to implement a fix to a solved problem.
“I think that all stores should charge 1c”
“Why?”
“Why not?”
“Because that would suck”
None of the ‘reasons’ provided by those wanting the change so far have been compelling. They’ve been ‘arguments’, yes. They haven’t been good ones.
Why are you even playing TBC then? Retail ‘fixed’ all the problems.
You created a new reason no one is arguing for then argued against that…
More bs misdirection and still no arguments against dual spec.
Hahah, that’s now how this works.
You have to come up with a compelling reason to make a change. If your reasons can be shot down easily, they’re not compelling.
So far there’s been no good reason provided why this needs to be done. And saying “It fixed a problem in Wrath” doesn’t apply, because if the changes made during the Retail system were what people wanted… we wouldn’t be playing Classic versions without the changes that people didn’t like.
Never said retail fixed all the problems. again putting words in other peoples mouths and then arguing against that fake point…
Dual spec isnt in Retail, talent trees aren’t in retail.