AV Cave Rez situation

[Brokenwind-malganis (Brokenwind)]

@Ziryus-doomhammer

Horde were not playing scorched earth. So it’s both a player and a map problem.

So you are saying that by virtue of player mentality, 1.12 that we have is suffering from “sCoRcHeD eArF”, while Korrak’s Revenge did not… because ~reasons~
DESPITE that many if not most players in classic came from retail… yet the 2 AVs are magically played differently.

Many of us warned blizzard that 1.12 AV would be a zerg race.
You swooped in as often as you could to deny that it would happen, and if it would… how did you put it? Oh yeah:

@Ziryus-doomhammer

This is what people really need to understand, you want AV to not be a zerg play some defense. This is something that’s 100% controllable by the player base, what really turned AV into a zerg was adding reinforcements, which won’t be in 1.12.

@Ziryus-doomhammer

it did not routinely get zerged, that didn’t happen until much later when reinforcements were added.

@Ziryus-doomhammer

And I could just as easily say that those who actually played 1.12 know that it’s not just a zerg and tactics and strategy are important.

@Ziryus-doomhammer

It doesn’t take the entire BG to break a zerg, a handful of people can do it. The reality is 1.11 AV doesn’t cater to zerging or not zerging, it merely doesn’t force one strat over the other. The people claiming they can’t stop a zerg seem to be mostly people who are just lazy and or bad at pvp.

1.12 AV in classic instantly became a zerg race for months.
Horde decided to take the zyrius advice:

@Ziryus-doomhammer

Exactly if you want a huge long lasting fight don’t let the other faction rush. You
know pvp in a BG.

Zerg races stopped.
Zyrius now swoops in at every opportunity , to bemoan “sCoRcHeD eArF” and “tEh mAp!”