Alterac Valley in Classic

Also have to note that I’m quite certain some people would have subbed longer with earlier AV. Since AV is largely player driven, it creates a ton of free content for Blizzard. The stripped down version does not carry the same replayability in my opinion.

I would love for Blizzard to offer up a poll for this one.

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Blizzard as you are bringing CRBG:s anyway that would allow you to make a compromise on this AV version subject.
With CRBG:s it’s possible to have two versions of AV running simultaneously.
1.7 and 1.12 versions perhaps as a suggestion.

Doing this would pretty much make most people happy and would also provide valuable user data as you could easily compare the popularity of the versions.

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Cam someone cite exactly where blizzard stated there would absolutely be crbgs?

I believe it was part of one of the youtube interviews that got released on the 14th of may … I find it quite annoying that Blizzard themselves don’t have a post with all the interview links. A simple blue post saying:

“We had an intverview with Forbes, please check this link” - “We had an interview with Esfand / Tipsout, please check youtube…”. It’s really annoying that we have to dig them up.

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Please reconsider Bliz. 1.5 was much much better than 1.12

I don’t even care if it’s CRZ, but like Classic’s classes, it’s the mechanics that matter.

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I want the original AV not one where we see who can zerg the commander the fastest. I want an Hours long war.

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Then play some D and prevent the zerg.

Only works when others do the same, the old AV forced teamwork. 40 rando’s aren’t gonna all go in with the same plan. Old AV you had to work together.

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You don’t need 40 people to break a zerg, a handful of people can do it.

Delay maybe but not stop, not with the current NPC’s. best you could hope for is holding them at the bridge or tower depending on the side. And that’s if you have a group dedicated to base defense with the right composition. Mostly you’ll watch the bulk of the horde and alliance wave at each other as they pass like ships in the night on the way to their respective ports.

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A combo group of 10 frost mages and warlocks could hold the major chokepoints nearly indefinitely thanks to blizzard’s 75% slow. I mean, 50% move speed on a mount or 25% when not means it’s like running through a shredder

Yes I said that, but again your relying on 10 people of a specific class mix to all get together with the same goal.

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To make the argument that one has to rally people to defend just for there to be PvP in a PvP battleground is a ridiculous one. Do we need to go into WSG or AB and tell people there not to rush the objectives in order to PvP?

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Someone summed it up nicely as capture the flag with no flag.

Enter your av length contest entry here
I think I once lasted 4 hours
I know, I’m a scrub

cant wait to do the av grind and get the unsyoppable force on my 2hd enhancement shaman in classic wow.

You mean the “grind” that will take a fraction of the OG time and can likely be done in one BG weekend in the watered down version of AV?

yep exalted with av can take one weekend or you can space it out.

Just chuckling that you referred to it as a grind.

i guess you donr remember how av was back then its ok.playing it for a few days straight was the grind.