That’s egregiously wrong to put people through, especially if they turn out to be innocent. Missing almost all of prepatch.
Well that’s your mistake, you didn’t rush Drek or Van so according to Vrakthris you aren’t participating.
People can argue with that all they want. But a blue post straight up said if you’re playing the obj and you’re alone, you arent doing anything. What a crappy policy.
Total garbage policy for sure.
There hasn’t been “silence”. Things have been explained, and players like you refuse to listen or accept it. To summarize:
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There was a ban wave. If it was done like other ban waves, accounts were flagged until they were ready to pull the trigger. So your situation may have been last week, and someone else’s may have been last month.
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False positives do happen, and there may even be more than normal. The only way to solve it is to file an appeal. They are taking a 2-3 day turnaround, and nobody, especially Blizzard like this timeframe. It is what it is.
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Yes, everyone feels they are innocent, and that is certainly true for some people. But many more are not innocent. For the main reason, see 4.
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The reasons behind the bans are running into the realm of conjecture and outright fiction, but here’s the basic reason: when in AV (or any other BG), you need to be participating. This does not mean “stand in a tower” or “head to AFK hill” or “capture a mine, then take a bathroom break”. It means you are helping the team, even if you don’t like their strategy. It means communicating when the enemy team is. It means telling everyone that you are defending this tower, then actually leaving to join the battle after it caps.
All these threads are devolving into “I want to play the BG how I want, it’s not fair!” If you want to try a different strategy, then grab your friends and try it. If you join a random BG, then doing things contrary to the group’s aim…even if you are doing the BG’s programmed objectives…you are risking non-participation.
It’s not about what YOU want to do. It’s about helping the ENTIRE GROUP.
Absolutely a terrible policy. The strange thing is usually their is like 2-3 people standing at that objective too. Its terrible because for a lot of those games we actively defended. A lot of them we stood there an no one came. A lot of those people probably are banned and that is terrible.
You miss the WotLK launch because you did AV objectives. LOL… terrible…
That is total bull. They designed the BG to be done in that way. If they feel it shouldn’t be done that way then they need to post that before ban waves. If we are suppose to just run to the end and pull then say it. Don’t silently ban people and then say… oh… btw… you got to run to the end and pull or you get banned.
You’re doing the same thing though “I want YOU to play the BG how I want” In the grand scheme of things, a solo player or two defending a tower till it burns down increases the chances of it actually burning. It’s not their fault the other team all ran to the boss to afk till it was time to pull…
So you have said, multiple times in multiple threads. Quite frankly, too bad. Blizzard sets the rules and this is their rule.
You would like to see it changed? Understandable. You would need to post in the PvP Forum to suggest such a change.
Yeah, they have. It’s very well known that standing alone in a tower risks non-participation, even if you may have a valid reason for being there.
No, it’s what the group majority wants. Just like in a 5-man dungeon, majority rules. If 3 people want to stand around and not kill mobs/bosses, that’s their choice. If you are in the minority and don’t like it, you don’t train mobs on them or try to force them to play your way.
Best advice is to make sure you are communicating to the group what you are doing. Beyond that, follow the group and help your team.
And since I’ve seen this tired excuse, if you have to walk away from the game for any reason, even just a quick bio break, leave the BG so they can get a replacement. It’s not a valid excuse.
Exactly. So, part of the problem with AV is their is a lot of options. Objectives are an actual part of the BG. You can totally skip PVP because its mostly a PVE encounter that wins the game. You can totally skip the PVP and make the PVE part harder. You can do quests. You can be low level. You can max level.
All of these things mix to people not all doing the same things. This is not the players fault. This is the designs fault.
Can I see the post that says defending towers can get you banned?
I need citation. Before the ban wave.
I guess Blizzard should reach out to Wowhead then to update the strategies.
See, this is what I’m talking about. Every time it’s explained to you, you go back to a debate about AV and objectives. Your opinion of how AV should work is irrelevant here. Your opinion of how AV should work is needed in the PvP Forum, where the developers can see it.
You’ve been given the answers. You just don’t like them.
Its not explained by someone that matters is more the key factor here. You come here and say “im me… soooo” and that isn’t exactly a form of authority. So far I haven’t seen you post Blizzard’s post about doing objectives getting you banned. Only you saying “its well known” which isn’t a source. Its subjective speculation. Reaching at best.
If you get banned for doing objectives in AV then they need to say that black and white.
Read that one with all the blue quotes
Oh, it has. Blue posts all over the place, including this very thread:
Again, you just don’t like the answers that have been given. If you wish to suggest changes, you’ll need to post in the PvP Forum.
It’s not my job to do Google searches for you. But why would you accept that Blue post any more than you’ve accepted the Blue posts in this thread?
That doesn’t specifically say doing objectives as the BG is designed can get you banned. Its very broad and open. Extremely subjective.
If capping a tower and defending it is a bannable offense it needs to be VERY specifically said as such.
Note he wanted something before the ban wave hit. Something that would have been a warning or something that the group you got randomly assigned controls you actions for the duration of the BG.
It depends on if your team feels it is part of the team strategy, as explained in those posts.
If you run off and just camp a spot by your self, you run a high risk of being reported for not helping the team with their strategy. If you do it for multiple games and the logs show no healing/DPS then yes, they can ban you.
Pretty sure those were all before the ban wave on Classic. This is not a new policy and not the first time someone has come here to complain or ask about it. Blues have been posting about it now for quite some time. Note the dates on the post that Leilleath posted. She is the one I was linking to and posted it here just after I linked it