Please nerf orisa, i beg of you

[Lethal-11550]

The term platchat was used by streamers to rankshame their chat that tries to act like their gm while they are plat. 4head idc if its meme or not its literally used by streamers for that reason

[Chulia-21104]

I mean… It’s not really rank shaming tbh…

You need to realize the difference of it.
You’re also the only one who’s really getting offended by it and creating nonesense fuss about it…

[KainKent-11130]

Its her time to shine and it’s about time for a tank that was getting called F Tier, useless, you name it (anything other than OP) for 2 years. A Tank who was getting Buff requests constantly during Dive and GOATS.

Here’s the way I’ve seen this play out during every meta:

Tank goes into meta. They’re automatically flagged as OP by the forums. Forums demand nerfs to said tank.

Tank slips out of meta for any number of reasons, they’re now fine even if they weren’t directly nerfed, or changes like role lock, etc.

New Tank goes into the Meta forums blow things completely out of proportion calling for nerfs.

This has happened during each meta. I’ve been playing this game for since the 2nd round of Beta and nothing on this forum nor the old one has changed when it comes to metas and the tanks therein said meta.

What is the end result each time? The tanks are minorly nerfed (in cases like D.va and Zarya) but the main tanks themselves generally stay the same (Rein didn’t change at all for GOATS except for the overall armor nerf, Winston didn’t change for Dive.) and here we are with people wanting Rein and Winston back in the meta again.

Examples from each of the Metas:

Winston is too strong of a hero

Yeah I’m thinking he’s slightly too loaded. His shield is basically up every time he’s engaging, he has insane mobility, and his ult is one of the best stalling tools. Just nerf his shield, give it a longer CD. It’s literally always up.

Winston on Horizon second is OP

As a Main tank, I have to say that Horizon second is easily Winston best map section. That moving perch makes him basically untouchable. He doesn’t have to use his jump to initiate and he covers all entries to the point. As a PSA, if you play tank on Horizon, play Winston, it just works.

Winston is OverPowered lately!

I’m not sure if it should be a flat damage nerf or just a nerf to his leap, but because every game has a hanzo, widow, or both, he is wildly strong in this meta and is totally unchecked. Or I guess we could just call it counterplay.

Rein is way overpowered

He is in every single game, please nerf him because the only counter to Rein is another Rein, remember almost 100 percent pickrate means he is busted, just like Dva was!

Dva isn't op, rein is

The reason that dva has such a high pick rate is because she is the only character that has/can do her job, kinda like how supports are the only good healers, Dva has a unique job, but she’s not op. Now on the other hand you have rein, there’s a hero who shares a job with him and a hero who can do his job, but rein is better in almost every aspect. Need to attack, rein Need to defend, rein Dive comp, you should play Winston but rein can work Goats, rein Pirate ship, rein or rein + orisa. …

Rein is over powered

He can 1v1 all the squishes in the game, he has huge mobility with his charge and if he catches you as a squishy with his huge charge hitbox he will kill you, he can shoot through shields… his ult is a huge aoe stun!!! ITS OP edit: if its not clear, this thread is trying to showcase how people are overexerting how powerful brig is people act like brig can 1v6 the entire enemy team n stuff and its silly, brig was probably a bit overtuned but the point is rein can also 1v1 a huge amount of the c…

[tiffac-11658]

No, OW is not for fun. /s

[Ph4yte-1757]

The meta favoring a hero doesnt mean ones better. Orisia is basically unchanged over the past 2 years and its just now becoming useful cause of the meta. Adapt that is all

[Odin-21856]

Most overused, ignorant and baseless argument. Sorry but that does not add anything to the discussion. You’re simply parroting what you heard/read elsewhere.

“It’s okay, every hero is balanced and fine. It’s just the META BRUH! JUST ADAPT 4Head”

Absolutely nothing of substance.

It may actually blow your mind, but no competitive online game is ever perfectly balanced. It can however be much closer to balanced than it is now, and it falls upon proper constructive feedback to get there. Which is what these forums here are FOR.

[PingiPuck-2390]

so what point were you trying to make?

[Lumin-1385]

I’m going to make the same appeal that I made in another similar thread. Let’s please wait. Orisa IS getting a nerf, tomorrow. And Reinhardt a buff. And a new shield tank.

There’s a lot of changes. Can we at least wait and see how they play out? It’s only one more day people until they go live into a comp environment.

On the plus side, I do think we should buff D.Va. And I think we should buff Lucio. Both of those would have a positive impact on Reinhardt. And I’m at least glad that your suggested nerf is to Halt rather than shield. Still, we should wait at this point. The nerf is less than 24 hours away.

[Andough-1183]

But she hasn’t been “basically unchanged”

She has received 2 substantial buffs + an unnecessary quality of life buff while she was already meta…

[Roomba-11729]

So again.

Was Rein OP back in the day when he had similar pickrates? Winston? Dva? (Well, Dva was a different can of worms altogether. Jury is still out on that one.)

You see how you’re trying to force a direct correlation when there isn’t any, right?

But go ahead. Please nerf orisa and then let’s live in a world where the hit scans and snipers are now completely uncontested. Then we can all go “Ohhhhh so THAT’S what was going on…”

Or we can make tanks tank again. That’s what I’d like to see, personally.

[tiffac-11658]

What point? I was laughing at your post.

[PingiPuck-2390]

then what does make a hero OP?

[Kornmeal-1850]

while I agree we should nerf Orisa you just had over 15 months of giant hammer dad meta.

There was a point in there that we actually had every comp be viable at some point, it was truly amazing. I was both at 4100 and in a 4k team at that point, i reasonably saw it all and quite frankly didnt even see goats in every scrim.

[Roomba-11729]

One shot kills with very little to counter you, for starters.

Tone down Orisas shield? Fine. But to call her blatantly OP because of pickrates alone is naive. You need to see the forest from the trees.

She has received buffs, but this is not what made her popular. Her overall kit has been the same since launch, with tweaks to numbers along the way.

She was extremely unpopular at launch. So if SHE didn’t change much, what else did?

[CrAZYVIC-21977]

A lot of heros are perfectly fine but ONLY because E-SPORT players or GM players do not use them people rage-moan saying are underpowered

Orisa, Ashe, genji, tracer, S76, Zarya, Rein, Moira etc. ARE FINE is just “Pro players” have different plans

[rlyrlyBAD-2403]

OP, I’ve few things to say but before i begin:
Hehehehehehahahaha.

Guess what forum warriors been doing for last 18 months since Goats was meta? Crying about Rein being op and not fun to play against. I can play all of the main tanks so well, not having problems. But people wished and wished and cried for Rein nerfs.

Suddenly goats is gone and Reinhardt is like a throw pick right now against orisa hog.

Before Brig, everyone complained about tracers. Like Jeff said, be careful what you wish for.

When role que comes out,you’ll see lot more Orisa hog even in lower elo. Because:Hog is a tanky dps and orisa shoots. Two things dps mains want. Not to mention baptisite/Moira because they can be picked up by dps mains as well.

I hope those who whined love bunker comps a lot.

[PingiPuck-2390]

Lots of other heroes. But it’s all relative. If they double the health of every hero apart from orisa, orisa would be underpowered even though she is unchanged.

Something isn’t OP on its own, context matters a lot.
And currently orisa is the only viable main tank in GM (proof of this is winrate and pickrate)

This is a problem which can be solved in different ways.
-Nerf orisa
-Buff all other main tanks
-Nerf heroes who synergize with orisa
-Buff heroes who counter orisa
-Nerf heroes who counter other main tanks
-Buff heroes who synergize with other main tanks.
-Change the geometry of certain maps to favour other main tanks over orisa (think of paris first point)

Probably lots of other ways too. But the fact is, in the current context orisa is too strong or alternatives are too weak (which both mean the same thing)

[BlitzBl4de-1291]

Thats because you play at almost silver SR. Imagine vsing a hog that hooks you with every halt thrown out. Thats what happens after a certain SR more often than not.

[Jessicka-1960]

Even OWL teams don’t have Halt-Hook absolutely nailed down always. It’s a massive paired skill shot.

You want to balance her against this, then you’re balancing everything on absolute max potential. High skill cap heroes would vanish from the game since no one would ever reach that with them.

[ProcyonNova-1247]

I actually made a post about this a couple days ago. I think the main thing about Orisa that needs to be nerfed is the Halt ability.

You nerfed the wrong thing about Orisa

Her shield cooldown isn’t the problem. Not really. The thing that really needs a nerf is the Halt. The thing pulls you out of position and makes you unable to move for a very long time. So, not only are you pulled from around corners and made vulnerable to Roadhog (another tank I have an issue with), you are forced to sit there for several seconds. Something about this needs changing. I don’t care if you have to buff some other aspect of her kit. But this nerf certainly won’t address the issue. …