The game is not improved by the removal of Tassadar, or the inclusion of this new character. Nobody wanted this, and the only result has been angering Tassadar players.
I think the new character has potential with some pretty big tweaks (short range mage with no defense or escapes? Who thought that was a good idea?) but no…its not ok to just DELETE a character from the game.
Can we formally request that you slap a different name on this…“tassadar”, and bring back the old Tassadar? It doesnt matter if he wasnt meta. It doesnt matter if he wasnt popular. It doesnt matter that he did not completely encompass the Tassadar seen in cut scenes. What matters is that some people loved him, and did really well with him… an those people have had their favorite hero deleted in the name of…what? Progress?.. you did not progress anything. No one thinks this new character is a step forward. No one was complaining that Tassadar didnt fit is cut scenes. All you did was anger some loyal players, and give everyone else a flawed toy to play with that they will be discarding as trash within a couple days.
Just give back old Tassadar. Reuse the new tassadar resources for a different protoss hero. Problem solved. Easy peezy. Everyone goes home happy.
Plenty of people on Reddit did, in the many polls they hosted 90-95% of people voted to move forward with the rework.
I did vote to keep his shield and other parts of his kit (and have him remain as support) but it is very obvious the majority of the community did not agree. Most people wanted him to be reworked.
I suck with Illidan. Doesnt mean im gonna vote to have him turned into a front line tank. I wouldnt want to rob other players of their hero. Ugh… people ruin everything.
This is just a guess, but probably because they wanted new content at any cost, even if it meant gutting an existing hero.
It is practically a new hero release given how much his kit changed. There were likely as many Tassadar mains as there were Probius mains (very little) so there was little risk in upsetting the larger community.
You can’t ignore other people and then try to claim you represent a larger group than what you actually do. Misrepresentation and effectual lies do your claim a disservice; either you’re not actually concerned with others (as you so try to claim) or you dont’ actually care, and just murk about with an alt account to make it seem like that’s the case.
The whoopin few minutes it took you to type this up doesn’t indicate that you ‘loved the character,’ demeans the people that made such requests regarding why they wanted the character changed, and insults the people that put in the effort to create a kit like this accordingly.
The capacity for you to spout disingenuous, unsupported sweeping claims does more to indicate you don’t care and pretty much undermine the whole of the position you’re trying to claim.
The ability to make a sweeping generalized assertion ends when someone ends does the same thing. Maybe to others “it doesn’t matter that you now claim to love old tassadar” “it doesn’t matter that people claim other’s don’t matter” "it doesn’t matter that select people delude themselves with the capacities on a hero that sit at the crux of up/op for very different things.
Does it sound fun and friendly and worthwhile to say stuff like that? Discounting and ignoring the position others have pretty much suggests anyone else could do the same to you claim.
So the far more effective means would be to propose more grounded suggestions, details why something was ‘loved’ and a basic grasp that years of metrics have indicated that more people wanted a change for suit their love more so than a few select people only now coming out of the woodworks to make claims instead of being around to advocate how peopel could better appreciate what was already there.
But doing something like that would demand a bit more effort and paying attention that the small slew of repetitive topics seem to notice in this regard.
Well we get a blast people from afar protoss archetype.
At least there are possible other protoss heroes who could take on the shielder role.
But it is midly conforting knowing the pace of heroes releases are slow.
I hope scrapping heroes like that does not become an habit though.
yeah, it doesn’t make any sense. but it’s mostly blizzard’s fault for listening to these clowns. in any case, old tass is dead. he ain’t never comin’ back. we just have to move on. I’m trying to play Zarya more now… but it just isn’t the same…
I must agree,this new “tassadar” is garbage and feels nothing like old 1 which i will dearly miss. All he needed imo was his lvl 16 talents to be swapped with 13,
it’s the equivalent of looking at a recipe for making a cake and coming up with scrambled eggs.
You wouldn’t think it a ‘bad summary’ because it represents what you got out of ‘reading’ the post. Part of what I post some of these things is that it points as stuff people don’t bother to process particulars cuz they’re too busy patting themselves on the back to celebrate their lack of effort.
Why would anyone want the old Tassadar back give how broken the new one currently is? I mean obviously there will be nerfs but currently he is pretty much an instant win button in some comps.
20% spell power to all allies nearby? 900+ damage ability with 3 second CD? Strong zoning? Yup Tassadar has it all. His massive weakness of being stationary is even not so bad thanks to +30% spell armor when stationary talent and his mediocre HP pool (much larger than Li Ming). Although I have yet to see it, I suspect he will be high tier in ARAM from now on (as opposed to being considered mediocre to highish).
yea nah. Tassadar’s place in the game has been debated for years. For quite a long time, his popularity in general ranked play, even in Masters, was fairly low. It wasn’t until reaching Pro Play that the best players in the game, in a hyper coordinated environment, revealed his biggest strengths: being able to Double Soak and largely enabling AA heroes like Tracer. The problem there is that this was the only place where Tassadar found consistent usage and success, even Master league mostly just had a smattering of some players that were using him consistent and achieving at least decent success (not counting the buffs Tass received to purposefully make him straight stronger months before his rework).
Also, Mage Tassadar was arguably THE most suggested way to take the Tass rework, whether it was suggested for Lore reasons or purely gameplay reasons. It’s one thing to say that some players don’t like the rework but to pretend most people were fine with pre-rework Tass is just lying for no reason.