Warlock shifts the meta in an unhealthy way

[SparkyElf-2852]

@Kassadin-21130

60% global winrate

I’m tired of explaining that there’s generally no such thing. For example:

@SparkyElf-2852

First, in such a multiplayer game where one player wins and one player loses, there cannot generally be any ‘miracles’ and ‘wonder decks’ with e.g. 80% winrate — in fact, that number tends towards 50% (if there is that one deck that is much stronger than any other, then essentially everyone’s gonna play it, the winrate becoming strictly equal to 0.5) for any competitive deck.

or:

@SparkyElf-2852

in a ‘zero-sum’ game like this (one player wins, another loses — or, in rare cases, it’s a draw) the best deck in the world is gonna have exactly 50% win rate if everyone plays it. By the way, that’s why there’s no such thing as an abstract ‘win rate of a deck’.

or this rather silly one:

@SparkyElf-2852

@Mistikas-21916

all decks are around 60% winrate, regardless of your deck.

Go on, explain to me how it could be possible (big spoiler: it’s not) in a zero-sum game like this.

@Kassadin-21130

62,5% because of mirros

No offence, but generally such number are indicative of playing against bots (or something else fishy) for the aforementioned reason; in short, you can’t win against yourself, it’s about 50-50 plus-minus small fluctuations… maybe there’s an extra percent or two for really successful players, which is how they make it. That’s just an objective circumstance: HS is HS, more like poker than chess by nature, if you will.

@Kassadin-21130

Every other matchup is

But actually, I was asking about DH’s match-ups against proposed counters, which you have found amusing for some reason.

@Kassadin-21130

Btw everyone agrees my deck is tier 3 at the moment.

Is that so?

See, for instance, this meta review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xd2wnqFcyo

or an older text version:

https://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/welcome-our-demon-hunter-overlords-the-best-meta-decks-after-the-first-balance-patch/

In short, it’s arguably still (!) one of the best decks in the game.

By the way, my opinion regarding the notion of so-called ‘tiers’:

@SparkyElf-2852

@Scr0tieMcB-1291

tiers

Which is arguably the contender for ‘the dumbest way ever to rank anything — or anyone’.

It’s a very arbitrary and subjective concept, to put it mildly, dunno why some people go bananas about these ‘tiers’.