Reason I don't want to quit Hearthstone

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I know this is a silly reason to be I’m never quitting this game, but always wanted to see all the gold versions of the cards that I have that look like they would have a really great graphic in gold version, having no other viable options for videogames to play instead, absolutely falling into the sunk cost fallacy, and at times Hearthstone can be fun just as it can be equally frustrating as heck.

But then it’s not fun to get absolutely stomped because I get super angry after the 2nd time it happens in a given day.

I’m only playing mercs until I have all the mercs leveled up and geared out, although I may not do the ones with the heroic mode weapon unlock because often you get stomped in a heroic run on mercs.

I’m only playing tavern brawls to get my free pack each week as I feel it would be lost money to not play tavern brawl weekly.

I’m only playing because I really liked battlegrounds at first, but have been finding it more and more frustrating as time goes on.

I’m only playing regular Hearthstone in wild mode and it can be fun at times and other times not.

I don’t play the other modes: arena, duels or solo adventures.

Any psych people in here who can convince me it’s not worth it anymore? I’m so torn at the moment.

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I don’t blame you, kudos to the artists Blizzard hires/outsources the work to, some of them do a really beautiful job, I sometimes find myself staring at the gold cards in-game and losing track of time and being like oh-sh*t need to get a move on it!

Now, if only the game mechanics actually matched with how beautiful the artists made the game :slight_smile:

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I also dont quit because of the time spend… stupid i know… gameplay is downright frustrating, win or lose

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I say play as long as you feel like playing.
I play because it is free for me.
Were that to change, I would be gone like a thirty story elevator with failed brakes.

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Actually, if you get enough mercs properly upgraded, which seems to be your motivation — and it’s totally fine, this is a collectible card game after all, then, with enough strategy, heroic bounties shouldn’t be a challenge.

Let me add a couple of afterthoughts.

  1. The thing about the ‘sunk cost fallacy’ is relative: it’s pertinent in economics, but not necesserily in life. For example, if one’s old spouse gets seriously ill, the ‘optimal’ and ‘efficient’ ‘strategy’ would be to abandon them, in order to not commit the aforementioned fallacy, and fully invest in a prospective new relationship instead of supporting your loved old partner — however, that doesn’t sound quite right, does it?

  2. I understand it’s advice or feedback you’re after, so let me point out this. On the one hand, you should probably play what’s fun for you and vice versa, obviously enough — and someone else’s opinion whether it’s ‘stupid’ etc shouldn’t matter. On the other hand, if we talk about a collectible game, for instance, the developers most likely will use psychological tricks to keep you engaged. So, you should probably ask yourself: am I doing this because I want to, or would I quit, but for these things they keep offering me, i.e. I am doing this because they trick me into it? In the latter scenario, I would suggest defining some boundaries, e.g. setting a budget etc, and doing just what’s fun for you.

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What have we got there, a forum telepath and clairvoyant knowing what’s in another guy’s head? :grinning:

As far as I know or remember, that’s not how the brain is working, but that’s probably a big digression.

Why ever not? :grinning: And do you truly think someone’s gonna change their habits just because of some post on some forum… especially given that reading skills are extremely low here?

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Its not easy to understand what op wants from his post. I made an effort since i did interprit his post as a call for help.
Maybe my interpretation is completely wrong i dunno.

I was afraid a response like yours would come. Its just the way things are.
Which is why i was planning to remove my post shortly after.

Apparently i was to late with this o well it happens.
So i will remove it now and hope that satisfies you.

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It was actually pretty good advice for attempting to change an unhealthy addictive habit. Not sure why there was a need to remove it.

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Because i dont enjoy nasty responses nor want to pretend i know every answer,wich i definitely don,t.

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Why post it so hastily, then? There’s no rope burning, even drafts are saved on the server, so one can take their time and choose words carefully.

Questions were raised about a short passage or two from a rather lengthy post. In response, you decide to remove it entirely. Are you certain it’s not overreacting a bit here? :grinning:

Indeed, I find this kind of ‘all-or-nothing’ approach not easy to motivate, although it does not surprise me in these times — but that’s an entirely different matter, not sure if I want to go into it now.

In my opinion, there was generally nothing wrong with the post in question, but some formulations could have been a little bit more accurate or careful, that’s it. Of course, an author decides what to do with their writing in the first place.

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I have these thoughts too, not really ready to take anyones opinion, I can only really make my own.

I already semi quit and came back, so I am playing catchups, I am about half a year off catching up. I used to play wild and it lost all interest from me in the last few years. I am now playing classic now and some days I log in and all I play against is bots, last month I got a good run and didn’t play against hardly any, today on the other hand I played against like 5 in a row from diamond 9-7 approx. I think that is largely adding to the pointlessness I feel, especially given how pointless the current tavern brawl is. There are about 5 more classic decks I want to try and then it probably has no enjoyment left for me and I don’t really know if I’ll enjoy standard any more, but it is the grass is greener on the other side for now.

Then on the other hand I started gwent back up, I own every card in that game, yet I have hardly explored different decks. If I stop gwent it feels like there is no consequence because I can always come back to it. Playing both feels like too much, but I don’t have that toxic relationship with gwent and feeling like I need to keep playing on.

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Consider this a friendly warning about Gwent — it might turn out the same in terms of ‘toxicity’.

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Well its up to you to decide if you wanna continue or not.

If playing mercs and leveling them is what keeps you entertained, keep doing it. If you get frustrated after being mauled by player or boss or whatever - take a break or avoid it.

You do not need to abandon HS. Just focus on things you like.

Or take a break for few months / year, like me and return when you feel like it.

Sure, some people might give you subjective or even objective reasons why you should play/not to play. But in the end, its always up to you.

You wanna level mercs? You want to collect some gold cards? You want to combo tavern keeper to death with some insane OTK? You feel like pushing for legend? Or you prefer to leave for a week/moth/year? Just do what makes you happy.

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Thanks all for the advice.

For me it’s becoming why continue when I’ve played since day 1 and although I have always been prone to becoming angry at how I got beat back in the day the game was new and so it was always fun regardless.

They haven’t, outside of mercs or bg’s, really added anything to the game in years. At least what they have added has had less of an impact as a new expansion did years ago.

What’s worse about what they add seems to give players the ability to win in an what feels like an unfair way. Yeah, I know there’s an argument to be made for mecha’thun, reno jackson, etc. but when you’re going along having a good game and boom in one turn, you’re dead from a gimmick that your opponent used then it’s WTF? Really!

And because they haven’t in my mind been keeping the game fresh and new as much as back in the day it feels more frustrating to play than it was in the past.

So, then it becomes well keep playing to collect all the cards, level up all the mercs, maybe this season I will miraculously get to 7k MMR in bg’s, but then for what?

I understand do what makes you happy because in the end probably nothing matters other than your own happiness and how you treated others. That might be the ultimate solution to the meaning of life other than 42.

I am having the same conversation with myself about Hearthstone as I had with myself about WoW from probably 2015 until I quit Dec 2017. And it’s the same conversation I had with myself about Diablo 3 from Dec 2017 until I think I quit in 2020, although that was easier as the end goal for me was much clearer. Once you get to the point where you would only benefit from grinding paragon and trying to get ancient legendaries which were a 1% drop rate then maybe then it’s worth it to just quit as the returns would become instantaneously diminishing once you had all the regular legendaries for all your characters. One more greater rift has about a 0% chance of making my characters more powerful unlike when I still needed 1 more just regular legendary for X character which had a very real chance of dropping.

And then not to mention how in the past (1?) year they’ve started throwing more stuff at us for them to make money. A new battleground board background. A new battleground hero skin. It costs $15 now to play battlegrounds. And that’s got me going back to WoW, which in some ways for me at least became just one more pet, or one more mount to collect.

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Golden Whizbang the wonderful joins chat. :sunglasses:

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It has it’s own downsides, currently there are only about 50,000 people in the global leaderboard, so that is not without its risks. However what I describe with Hearthstone being toxic is the feel of needing to log in every so many days to complete quests and brawls just to keep it so I can play, I end up grinding more than I do playing normally. Whereas with gwent I already have one copy of each standard card including all legendaries and there will be no new cards, the meta will just gradually cycle around with balance updates, also the premium cards artwork is brilliant, I can turn a few full decks completely premium. I can also ignore the quests.

So it makes me curious if it is only the collection aspect of hearthstone that keeps me coming back to it and in that sense I should be careful not to fall into some cycle. At least for now, I have some time to kill and I don’t have a lot of ways to entertain myself when the weather is bad or so, there is nothing lost as long as I can just limit myself to playing when there is nothing better I could be doing.

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That would probably be a reason to rethink it, if you ask me.

Oh, I’ve got more than four hundred thousand scraps from open beta, if I remember correctly, and all of the cards, except for some recent ones which I could craft — for a long, long time, if you think about it, but I’m still not playing it.

How so? Have I missed something?

Sadly, there’s been a tendency towards catering to… people with unusual tastes, let’s put it that way, and drawing just outright ‘squicky’ cards, while the original style was more ‘epic’, athough ‘gritty’. A premium animation of a literal ‘(something dirty and unpleasant)-eater’ or something like that doesn’t make it visually appealing to me.

I understand, but there could be other games or modes you could enjoy more.

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Premium Villentretenmerth, now that thing looks so cool I have not seen anything come close to it in terms of dragon art.

So can I ask you what ultimately makes hearthstone the better game than gwent for you? Because I am a bit out of touch with gwent in recent times, I just have logged in, crafted up the top rated Nilfguard deck and gone 6-3 in ranked play.

I also am abroad now so I don’t really have a strong laptop and I am miles away from the servers so a turn based card game isn’t very punishing even if I disconnect it is generally fine. I was just getting back into runescape when I left to go abroad, but I don’t think this laptop is capable of even that, I actually bought a bond and just did fishing and woodcut, basically too hard to pve anything worth while with the lag, especially since I am almost maxed out so I should be getting into bossing and dungeon raids.

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Returned back to HS for Classic, nostalgia playing a big role in it, but nowadays I’m mostly into Mercenaries (it’s relaxing, no rush or stress with it, and it provides challenges, which many liken to puzzles — and I find solving these fun, besides, there are possibilities to be creative). As for Classic again, it has also been a chance to try things I couldn’t afford back in the day, besides, building my own deck my way in order to reach Legend regularly, for example, hasn’t been that bad, either. One more thing: I think detrimental changes have happened both in HS in Gwent, when it comes to game design, product quality, attitude towards the community, greed, etc, so going back to Classic was more about the days when ‘the grass was greener’.

I quit it a while ago, too, so I don’t even know about the very latest changes, if any.

That’s actually one of the ‘original’ cards, and yes, I know what you’re talking about.

Does it have to be a card game? I’d probably consider something like good old HOMM 3 (with the community HD mod, of course) or similar in such conditions.

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You really don’t have much to lose.

When you have thousands of dollars and hours invested like me for 8 years, then quitting truly is near impossible.