I'd like to know who started the private loot rumor/request

[Rondel-11703]

If you want pLoot in the game how long do you think this will take to program? how long are you willing to push the release date?

[ThatSupraGuy-1979]

Personally, it’s not something I would want, but it’s honestly not anything anyone is going to get. We have the option within the game for it already, making it something that is irrelevant.

Nothing has been announced, and within a month upon release well, people can take with that what they will.

[MicroRNA-1507]

Blizzard.

1. Blizzard has said repeatedly that they would listen to player feedback about making additional changes to D2R. They may listen and decide to make no changes but they have definitely left the door open to more changes in D2R.
2. Blizzard themselves in the first D2R survey explicitly asked if the player were interested in replacing FFA loot with personal loot.
3. When asked explicitly about adding “direct loot” as an option to promote co-operative multiplayer in D2R, Blizzard answered that not yet but they are continuing to listen to player feedback and may make changes accordingly.
4. The addition of personal loot is consistent with Blizzard’s concepts in their accessibility blog post. Optional personal loot was not announced in that blog post. Blizzard said that they have more unannounced accessibility changes that they will reveal.

[ThatSupraGuy-1979]

@MicroRNA-1507

Blizzard.

1. Blizzard has said repeatedly that they would listen to player feedback about making additional changes to D2R. They may listen and decide to make no changes but they have definitely left the door open to more changes in D2R.
2. Blizzard themselves in the first D2R survey explicitly asked if the player were interested in replacing FFA loot with personal loot.
3. When asked explicitly about adding “direct loot” as an option to promote co-operative multiplayer in D2R, Blizzard answered that not yet but they are continuing to listen to player feedback and may make changes accordingly.
4. The addition of personal loot is consistent with Blizzard’s concepts in their accessibility blog post. Optional personal loot was not announced in that blog post. Blizzard said that they have more unannounced accessibility changes that they will reveal.

Could you please include your source

[Lumpus-1803]

I think it’s both.

It’s nice to know that I can continue fighting when there’s a nice piece of loot on the ground rather than stopping everything and running to it before a sorc or someone with an Enigma can teleport to it and take it… which also happens to make it a class balancing thing since some classes have an advantage of either being next to loot when it drops or closing the gap to get to it more quickly.

[MicroRNA-1507]

Here are some.

@MicroRNA-1507

JagatPlay: Interview with Blizzard (Diablo II: Resurrected)! - Aroged

A: Given that multiplayer co-op will be an important part of Diablo II: Resurrected in the future, will there be an option for gamers to get direct loot instead of having to fight over each other?

Mat: As Andre previously said, for now, we are only focused on remixing the best gaming experience that Diablo II can offer in its original form. Then of course, listen to gamers’ feedback before the final release.

https: //us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d3/t/screenshot-of-blizzard-survey/30125
The D2R accessibility blog post link
How We’re Making Diablo® II: Resurrected™ More Accessible to Everyone — Diablo II: Resurrected — Blizzard News

The quotes below are moreabout changes in general and listening to player feedback.

@MicroRNA-1507

Here are undeniable facts and statements that prove that Blizzard is considering balance changes if the players want them.

On March 7, this Blizzard interview was released and directly quote from
How Diablo 2: Resurrected is calling on the spirit of the original ARPG | PCGamesN

**Players have cheesy strategies and classes they’ve come to love over the years. Are you keeping those intact, or will the game receive a balance pass to give the lesser loved classes their time in the sun?**

**Chris Lena:** Yeah, we made a decision not to do balance changes right now, for the very reason that we want to make sure we deliver the authentic experience. Who knows what might happen in the future with feedback. I know our designers have a list of things they would love to do. So we’ll see how that goes going forward.

**How will Diablo 2: Resurrected be maintained once it releases? Will there be balance patches or updates to keep it fresh?**

**CL:** I think that conversation starts with the technical alpha and goes through to launch. It’s really about what players are looking for and what they want. We love this game – we’re remastering it 20 years later – so we would love to continue giving players what they want.

**CA:** Yeah, I think our focus is really to listen to the community and see what they say online, and then see where it goes from there.

Another Blizzard interview is directly quoted from:
Diablo 2: Resurrected’s single-player alpha starts this Friday | PCGamesN
Lena told us that the door is open for things like balance changes to help keep the game vibrant for a modern community – if, indeed, players indicate that they actually want that to happen.

We also know that Blizzard asked about introducing balance changes in BOTH of their D2R surveys. Of note, the second survey indicated that balance changes may be introduced after launch, suggesting that the duration of the multiplayer beta and release date is not terriibly relevant to whether balance changes are introduced post launch.

@BillyMaysed-1834

From literally DAY ONE of the announcement they repeated at least 48 times during the D2R deep dive that this was only a remaster, not a remake, and therefor would receive very little changes beyond minor QoL.

I think that this is incorrect. Please provide links to at least 48 times that Blizzard said no balance changes would occur and that the only changes would be completely restricted to graphics and QoL updates. I provided proof that Blizzard stated more than once that balance changes are under consideration. To my knowledge, Blizzard has never stated that they abandoned their prior comments about balance changes being possible if the players want them.

Even one quote where Blizzard explicitly said that there will never be balance changes in D2R would be nice to support your claim. To my knowledge, none exist.

[Cooler-1954]

I think you guys just need to face the music. They are apparently looking for what players want, and a majority seem to want some change.

I’m in your corner fighting to at least have an untouched 1.14 option as well.

[Atma-1573]

The majority of players do not want change. It’s about 10 people on this forums who keep posting the same topic of ploot over and over again.

[Cooler-1954]

we had a small survey from Llama that said otherwise. His fans are also the type who have been around long before the remaster was announced. Why would even newer players want old mechanics?

You are wrong. No doubt.

Even Llama himself thought it was shocking because he is one of you, and his viewers still didn’t follow what he wanted.

[ThatSupraGuy-1979]

@MicroRNA-1507

I think that this is incorrect. Please provide links to at least 48 times that Blizzard said no balance changes would occur and that the only changes would be completely restricted to graphics and QoL updates. I provided proof that Blizzard stated more than once that balance changes are under consideration. To my knowledge, Blizzard has never stated that they abandoned their prior comments about balance changes being possible if the players want them.

Even one quote where Blizzard explicitly said that there will never be balance changes in D2R would be nice to support your claim. To my knowledge, none exist.

Balance: Character balance, skill balance, pvp balance, pvm balance, and performance balance. I could totally see.

I’d like to think balance relates more in other words to character balance. I’m also glad that people have admitted that it isn’t a remake it is in fact a remaster. Purists are okay with change but don’t completely remap the entire game based on people’s feedback because they cannot wait until D4.

As you continue to configure and bundle up more of your research, I still have yet to read anything about “loot”. Don’t get me wrong but when “Changes” come into play I agree balance will be there and feedback will be heard but what some players are asking for is something entirely different.

[MicroRNA-1507]

I have added the link to the interview about loot. The initial link is now dead but I faithfully quoted it when that link was working awhile back.

@MicroRNA-1507

JagatPlay: Interview with Blizzard (Diablo II: Resurrected)! - Aroged

A: Given that multiplayer co-op will be an important part of Diablo II: Resurrected in the future, will there be an option for gamers to get direct loot instead of having to fight over each other?

Mat: As Andre previously said, for now, we are only focused on remixing the best gaming experience that Diablo II can offer in its original form. Then of course, listen to gamers’ feedback before the final release.

Also, I added the link with screenshots of Blizzard’s own survey where they asked the players if they wanted to replace FFA loot with personal loot at D2R launch. I did not receive this survey but its authenticity have been widely verified by those who did.

[ThatSupraGuy-1979]

@MicroRNA-1507

I have added the link to the interview about loot. The initial link is now dead but I faithfully quoted it when that link was working awhile back.

I see, well I guess both parties on either side just play the waiting game then perhaps? Deciding whether to dictate what their next play is for the game. Those who choose either argument really have no argument without anyone within the team putting this in stone right?

I also understood those who exploited the surveys questions/answers were probable to disciplinary action.

[MicroRNA-1507]

Also, I hope that you did check out the screenshots of their D2R survey where they asked about personal loot.

I was a day 1 player of D2 and bought the collector’s edition at Best Buy on launch day. I remember how excited we were waiting in line waiting for Best Buy to open. The fact is that many D2 vets have complained about FFA loot for 15+ years. This is not new and even David Brevik has commented several times on this issue for several years that pre-dates D2R announcement.

[Atma-1573]

@Cooler-1954

we had a small survey from Llama that said otherwise. His fans are also the type who have been around long before the remaster was announced. Why would even newer players want old mechanics?

You are wrong. No doubt.

Even Llama himself thought it was shocking because he is one of you, and his viewers still didn’t follow what he wanted.

You just said it yourself, it’s a small survey from a llama and his fans. Do you have anything of your own to say or are you just pointing and saying “That guy said it so it must be true”

[Cooler-1954]

Numbers don’t lie lmao. Good luck convincing a new player that rubber banding is good. If you increase the size of the poll, the gap is just going to get larger.

[Atma-1573]

It’s a biased poll of course it will get larger because it’s only polling llamas friends. A non-biased poll would show otherwise but you don’t have any of that evidence.

[MicroRNA-1507]

@Atma-1573

You just said it yourself, it’s a small survey from a llama and his fans. Do you have anything of your own to say or are you just pointing and saying “That guy said it so it must be true”

I do not think you discount MrllamaSC poll nor do you discount the reddit poll. You just need to understand both polls have sampling bias, skewing the results when looking at the data.

For example if the respondents were enriched in purists, then it would underestimate the frequency of the actual/potential D2R players that wanted changes.

Assuming no shenanigans, MrllamaSC poll and the reddit poll accurately reflect the views of the respondents with the caveat that each respondent may not have fully understood the question.

[GrimReaper-1555]

It’s as simple as this

Private games = Private loot
Public games = Public loot

[ThatSupraGuy-1979]

@MicroRNA-1507

Also, I hope that you did check out the screenshots of their D2R survey where they asked about personal loot.

I was a day 1 player of D2 and bought the collector’s edition at Best Buy on launch day. I remember how excited we were waiting in line waiting for Best Buy to open. The fact is that many D2 vets have complained about FFA loot for 15+ years. This is not new and even David Brevik has commented several times on this issue for several years that pre-dates D2R announcement.

I checked them out, they did ask but nothing has been spoken about it or within confirmation. I am right there with you, along the lines of purchase and playtime. It just personally never really bothered me. I will say my playstyle was probably more PvP than solo MF my way to gear my toons.

It’s just a waiting game at this point. Just my 2 cents but I think putting something they haven’t had into a game, or any game (Any industry) needs testing consistently, reporting, etc. A lot of the player base I feel would abandon the wait. But I can’t speak for everyone. Regardless I look forward to seeing you in Hell bro.

[MicroRNA-1507]

@ThatSupraGuy-1979

It’s just a waiting game at this point. Just my 2 cents but I think putting something they haven’t had into a game, or any game (Any industry) needs testing consistently, reporting, etc.

Hence, my desire for 2 separate realms: strict remaster and modern realm.