D2R: Personal/Instanced Loot is a MUST for this game!

D3 got no pros.

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watch what happening in d3 thats the way this Devs take. in my eyes did Personal loot destroyed d3 and the dropchances in d3 are a joke. you just need a maximum of 3 days to have reached the endgame. thats anightmare in my eyes for D2

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There is no multiplayer option in D2 anyway as long as the non consensual PVP isn’t removed either. So why bother about shared loot?

Funny people have been complaining about this before D3 was a thing.

The anti personal loot people are blatantly ignoring how it would work and trying to browbeat that it will be a D3 situation.

So once again, the way non shared loot would work is everything stays exactly the same in terms of drops and MF. All items are rolled on behind the scenes by the gsme and it determines who gets what of the loot that drops. To make things feel similar all loot will drop onnthe ground. Stff you won will be colored for you. Stuff that you didn’t will be greyed out. You still have to pick things up. Players can come away empty handed.

This does it effect the economy, does not create inflation, and most importantly, it makes things fair from the standpoint of lag, reflexes, and competing against users with loot bots.

I’ve said this a few times now and yet, the 8x loot and inflationnos repeated like they are lemmings.

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because shared loot is such a trash design and really a flawed point of d2, so talking about QoL this should be on top of their list, it scares away people who dont wanna smash the screen over fight on the drops. no popular games like this have that kind of system nowdays, figure why.

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Of course it is.
But what use is personal loot when you pick it up and then the guy next to you suddenly kills you?

David Brevik in terms of D2 gameplay - “Removing the stamina bar and instancing loot are a few things I would love to see.”

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So you want D3. Hard no.

And this is his OPINION. Everyone can and should disagree.

hilarous that david out of all people have said this, so many d2 purists scream that shared loot is the best thing ever and david was a god to keep it.

QoL right her, make it happen.

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You can’t really remove stamina bar as it comes into the gameplay even at very rare occassions. There are still stamina drain monsters in D2 and fast moving melee classes outrunning monsters for too long is a problem.
For removing stamina system to work well, monsters’ awareness must be amped up which would get you ganked if you were to move too fast to run into other groups of enemies in the open. I believe with modern resolution of D2R, they thought about that and applied the proper changes to artificial intelligence to seek player efficiently already.

That’s where my view split with the Brevik. I rather see the stamina scaled better and come into active combat at gameplay of certain builds or when versing against specific monsters, instead of completely removed.
Dodge or blocking may drain your stamina as well as casting some buffs or problematic spells that cause stutters when spammed (read the announcement about that 6-7 months ago). Aura enchanted monsters with Might or Blessed Aim can have a stamina drain ability embed into the main skill as well. That both buffs Paladins (Charge-Vigor-BH builds) yet makes stamina in combat important.

If not, then I rather prefer it to stay that way. Just carry a few potions of stamina to gulp down which doesn’t take much space and problem solves itself. If you stuff your entire inventory with charms only to the brim, it’s on your own.

This dont need to be changed, its a part of original d2 and part of competion when you play multiplayer. Personal loot will let leechers to get items whithout ever go in the battle lol

In an 8 player game, the most a leecher can get in personal loot is 1/8 of the items. In a global loot game, leechers can get a disproportionately high number of good drops (far more than 1/8). Discouraging leechers and autoclicker hack is one of the benefits of personal loot.

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David Brevik hasnt had anything to do with the game in 16 years


I think he had an incredible vision and made a masterpiece of a game. That can’t be understated.

But to assume because he tweeted he would like to see it, that it should be worshipped as gospel? He left Blizzard 16 years ago and doesn’t even play Diablo. He is just spitballing about a game he made long ago. It’s laughable that people think that him saying “I’d like to see instanced loot” is somehow an argument.

Gimme a break.

Then you’re left with Diablo 3 only, sad truth.

The point is you all refuse to give a proper arguments either. After all these noise, I rather trust developers’ to give the best decision regarding their counter measures’ efficiency against cheating.

I gave a proper argument. MULTIPLE TIMES.

David Brevik saying “I’d like to see this” is not an argument. That’s not how it works.

No. However, as you know, some have inaccuraely stated that no one who knows D2 would ever support personal loot. With Brevik’s comment as well as the twitch video, it is clear that the assertion of only “d2 noobs” wanting personal loot is not worth the pixels on my screen.

I have provided a multitude of explanations on why I prefer personal loot as has MANY others on the forum.

I have yet to see a compelling argument for why players can not choose on character creation (similar to clicking on hardcore versus softcore) to have personal loot or global loot?

You can play with like minded “global loot” players while others play with thos that prefer personal loot.

I can not recall any argument that you made that was compelling to me as to why having two choices is worse than one.

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Which we failed to see any proper reasoning. We didn’t ask for more loot or loot to be handed to any of us. We only want counter measures against auto click bots, not fighting over loot and claim it’s the thrill of the game.

Then give a reason instead of claiming that you did, when you simply didn’t even once clearly. David Brevik is the forefather of the franchise, have decades of experience and he simply said it wouldn’t impact the game much. He works on PoE since 2016, which has trading and split loot I rather take his words than yours. Come up with something instead of trolling.

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I gave you proper reasoning yesterday when you said the exact same thing. Now you’re just trolling.