Why the new mount equipment system feels so underwhelming

[Galani-rexxar (Galani)]

BM hunters have water walking on any mount if they want. Go to Krasarang Wilds. Tame water strider as hunter pet. Call that one, activate water walking. Works just like DK and Shaman water walking.

[Tareir-arthas (Tareir)]

It’s day 2 of the PTR and things are almost always cheap on the PTR so players don’t need to bother farming gold to test things.

I thought I saw a blue post saying it would be around 40g too. Maybe I’m imagining it, but that sounds about right for the massive discount to people who are exalted

[Hardwire-velen (Hardwire)]

BM hunters have water walking on any mount if they want. Go to Krasarang Wilds. Tame water strider as hunter pet. Call that one, activate water walking. Works just like DK and Shaman water walking.

I’m waiting for them to nerf that ability as soon as they remember it exists/too many hunters are running around with water strider pets. Then they’ll tell you it’s so you can have the “choice” of which pet to run with.

Blizzard: Increasing choice by removing options.

[Ruddypiper-sargeras (Ruddypiper)]

I’m waiting for them to nerf that ability as soon as they remember it exists/too many hunters are running around with water strider pets.

If the Anglers removed water walking from striders mounts, it stands to reason the same goes for hunter pets.

But it’s Hunter and Pet so Blizzard probably won’t notice until someone QQ’s about PvP and water walking or 2125. Whichever comes first.

[Galani-rexxar (Galani)]

Well yeah, that will happen really fast since BM hunters are back to being the whipping boys again. Just like when BFA hit and they took bres from the few exotic pets that could have it. And when Bliz promised we’d have our raid wide run speed buff returned… and it wasn’t. That time BM almost made it to top hunter spec… and now its’ back at the bottom. Cause evidently a class with the same amount of buttons in rotation as every other class has now is somehow dangerous because movement.

[Toolatenow-earthen-ring (Toolatenow)]

I feel like this is exactly right. More of a way to control how players move.

Every decision is about control over the players and not for fun.

Welcome to the new lead development team. The “do it my way and the community is toxic for not agreeing” kind.

[Laeth-hakkar]

I’m not as enthusiastic as I was before but I’m still in favor of the change.

[Flowermilk-proudmoore]

I don’t know how many times I started replying to your insipid posts here and elsewhere then cancelling cuz you’d go crying and flagging.

I wouldn’t, nice assumption there.

But when you put some moronic snark about devs, then you’re just being mendacious and petty, I post.

Okay? You’re free to reply to whatever you want.

You made threads about having a hard time leveling and other newbie questions

I posted in a thread about leveling alts faster asking if War Mode was worth it (especially as Alliance), as it’s a new feature this expansion and I hadn’t tried out leveling using it yet.

and then you dismiss the devs as if they can’t make a game without making things worse? What do You know about game development?

Oh no pardon me, I didn’t know you’re only allowed to voice feedback if you’re a game developer.

Pack it up guys, only game developers allowed on these forums, all other opinions should just be disregarded because obviously none of us know anything about game development.

And just a tip: You can easily reply to what I said disagreeing with my opinions without making any personal attacks on me. If you had cut that part out I might have even agreed with you.

[Sincubus-moon-guard (Sincubus)]

I like the idea of the change, just this current version is too basic and underwhelming.

Again, if they just made it per mount rather than per character and gave angler reps a discount then every problem I can think of about the system would go away.

[Sincubus-moon-guard (Sincubus)]

@Tareir-arthas

I thought I saw a blue post saying it would be around 40g too. Maybe I’m imagining it, but that sounds about right for the massive discount to people who are exalted

@Bornakk

Also, I expect the other items (anti daze, etc.) to cost a fair amount more than 40g.

@Bornakk

If someone hasn’t been out there fishing with Nat Pagle then they can’t buy them for 40-50g and will need to get them through other means.

[Normercy-aggramar (Normercy)]

Or… no mount has water walking because you use the no daze equipment instead! Or the other one and then you don’t get the no daze equipment or water walking.

Yes, sounds perfect. /s

Not even Ray Charles is getting dazed or knocked off his mount more than a couple times here and there, and how hard is it to have a parachute on your hot bar? Stick with waterwalking on whatever mount you enjoy most. Win all day. But pretend its a big problem just to have something to gripe about. /zip it

[Vixie-burning-blade (Vixie)]

And just a tip: You can easily reply to what I said disagreeing with my opinions without making any personal attacks on me. If you had cut that part out I might have even agreed with you.

So it’s okay for you to make personal attacks on the game developers? Kind of a “can’t take it but will dish it out” type of thing, no?

[Wolfguide-wyrmrest-accord (Wolfguide)]

To be fair I notice some of my classes get dazed a lot easier than others. My priest has to give mobs a wide berth, to be sure. And with these more densely packed areas of legion and BfA its harder than ever to avoid pulling something.

[Flowermilk-proudmoore]

@Vixie-burning-blade

So it’s okay for you to make personal attacks on the game developers? Kind of a “can’t take it but will dish it out” type of thing, no?

Saying that the devs keep making changes that make things worse and not better is not a personal attack on the devs. It is criticizing the job they are doing, leaving feedback about changes to the game, what these forums are literally supposed to be about. And I’m sure you’re going to tell me “that feedback isn’t constructive though” conveniently ignoring my sentence right before that saying it would be better if it was per mount and not per character.

Maybe you should review the Code of Conduct:

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[Normercy-aggramar (Normercy)]

take off the shades at night and avoid things.

If you are having trouble, I am sorry. Later

[Savana-scarlet-crusade (Savana)]

That’s not a bug. I mean the mount is a bug but that effect is intended. You get hit, you lose water walking until you remount. Been that way for a while.

They took it one step further and now the mount loses the ww ability if you take any amount of falling damage. I wonder how they are going to do the other abilities. Will the parachute fail if you hit a tree and fall to your death? Will the stun resistance only last for x number of hits? This is not good so far.

If they leave the ww ability as it is now, then only the mob damage will remove it. Time will tell if it’s a bug or intended.

[Vixie-burning-blade (Vixie)]

So it’s okay for you to make personal attacks on the game developers? Kind of a “can’t take it but will dish it out” type of thing, no?

Saying that the devs keep making changes that make things worse and not better is not a personal attack on the devs. It is criticizing the job they are doing, leaving feedback about changes to the game, what these forums are literally supposed to be about.

This is not criticism:

They somehow managed to make it even worse than what we already had, but that seems to be the norm now with the WoW devs I guess.

That’s just a pure dismissive insult and insinuation that the devs are making things worse on purpose, without a shred of “feedback”.

So what’s your excuse for treating the game devs without any respect or courtesy?

[Savana-scarlet-crusade (Savana)]

I’m thinking my main will use the free token for water walking and the others will just have either flying or running mounts just as I had before I got the strider this year. I won’t pay to get a feature on a mount. I think it’s sucky system.

[Flowermilk-proudmoore]

Lol I knew it.

And I’m sure you’re going to tell me “that feedback isn’t constructive though” conveniently ignoring my sentence right before that saying it would be better if it was per mount and not per character.

This system would have been infinitely better if it was per mount and not per character.

This is constructive feedback. Just conveniently ignore it and tell me I’m lobbing personal attacks at the devs so you can excuse lobbing personal attacks at me.

[Brahmina-khadgar (Brahmina)]

All this crying is just a way for players to say “Oh no I am not going to be the only one having a water walking mount that I worked so hard for” or “I am no longer ABOVE others and my elite status is going away.”

This isn’t what anyone has been complaining about. I don’t even know where you got that.

We are gaining abilities on mounts that don’t have abilities at all and there will for sure be a whole lot more in the future.

You are gaining exactly one ability that can be applied to all of your mounts at once on one character only. If you want to use a different ability, you lose the equipment already applied and will have to repurchase that ability if you want to go back to it in the future.

If you want any of your other characters to have any abilities, they will have to purchase the equipment for whichever ability you want to use. Again, if you decide a different piece of equipment will be more advantageous, you will lose whatever you have currently slotted.

It doesn’t matter how many abilities are offered in the future, you will have to purchase each and every one you want to use for each and every character you want to use it on. Each character can only use one ability at a time, and each character will have to repurchase the equipment if they want to use it again.