Why is it called Community Council?

Pretty sure it’s past participle. Regardless, at least they get some answers. All I ever asked for. I wasn’t around when blues were interested in posting here.

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I haven’t looked at the CC forum since after the first week it was introduced. It was pretty obvious almost none of them shared my or my friends views on the game.

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Which is exactly what I said would happen when the CC was announced.

It’s exactly like alpha forums every expansion, which have hundreds and hundreds of players but only a couple dozen ever post anything.

At least with alpha testing, people are still reporting bugs through the in-game tools. There’s zero point in having people on the CC who never post.

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I don’t understand this, like, it comes from a idea that there was a glorious time in the past where blue posts engaged with GD willy nilly, but at least for my time from Cataclysm to Now i only saw engagement from Devs in two moment.

First Pre-Mop from Xelnath in MMO-champion forum for the warlock rework and Now with Threads by Scarizard like Raid Rewards Experiments in Season 4 - #442 by Argorwal-ysera

I honestly think Devs and CMs have been engaging more in forum now than in the last few years.

As for Community Council, people there got selected from different backgrounds, and have enjoyed some of the answers they got from devs.

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I’ve just come to terms with the fact that the Community Council isn’t there FOR the Community, it’s there at the expense of the Community. They keep making personal suggestions which have provably driven off players not only in this game, but others as well(some very shuttered famous examples to boot). So yeah, it is what it is. Hopefully once M$ takes over we’ll get developers who are looking for genuine feedback instead of having their ego’s stroked in a hand-picked echo chamber.

When you are in the midst of a giant PR disaster, the best way to quell the angry masses is to make them think you are listening to what they are saying.

The CC forums are a shiny trinket meant to distract people momentarily while they attempt damage control. Give it a little while and they’ll abandon those forums as they have the rest.

“People are mad at us. Quick! To the Color Wheel!!”

“We got blue and green. What’s missing? We should add that next.”

“We’ve already got blue for sad and green for sick. Let’s add yellow for pissed.”

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The CC is also entirely too small and spread too thinly.

How many people even post on the CC forums about any given activity? It’s like 3 or 4 pvpers, 3 or 4 raiders, 3 or 4 RPers, etc.

There isn’t even critical mass of posters on any given topic to talk about it. But if they add more people, it’s basically just the beta forums for each expansion.

And Blizzard certainly didn’t listen to the beta forums for SL or BfA.

I wonder if they’ll actually take heed of feedback during Dragonflight alpha/beta. I seriously doubt it.

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The early days of these forums (pre-revamp) had a good amount of Blue interactions. Quite often they would answer questions, field concerns or just chat. Dragon Soul raid had a large impact upon the relationship between business and consumer that the community has yet to fully recover from.

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They haven’t learned anything in ~18yrs of WoW. What’s going to change now?

They’ve listened during some betas. I personally made suggestions in Legion that were incorporated into the released version, for example. They’ve just had their fingers in their ears the last 2 expansions.

Why I said I was teasing, that being said - if I was asked what was more likely, the world ending tomorrow or blizzard-activision recruiting a diverse open minded selection of members for their community council and not a herd of sheep? I’d put it all on the world ending, safer bet.

Had some time to go through the older content for some suggestions to bring up by the CC.

  1. Ogri’la, Sha’tari Skyguard, Keepers of Time and Netherwing reputation tokens should be available at the TBC timewalking vendor.
  2. Frostwolf Garb and Ceremonial Karabor Regalia (WoD) should be purchasable regardless of played class due the time-consuming nature.
  3. Frostwolf Garb should be revisited: Change it to Mail, finally adding the head gear which people have been requesting for half a decade.
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Yeah sorry I’ve seen the brush offs they give when asked about questions they don’t care about or don’t agree with. And if you call them out in it suddenly the thread gets CIA’d into the invisible section where no one likely will ever see it.

I think the community council should consist of me myself and i. I’ll lobby for things the players want like the return of heart of azeroth type systems, leveling professions to become more efficient at them, and making the underrot be part of every m+ season.

Lol my question is how many people that play wow actually post on the forums? 80%, 60%, 40%, 20%, less than 10% of the actual playerbase posts on the forums especially in GD.

Looking over those forums, I definitely do not feel properly represented :frowning: . I see what you are getting at. 99% of the posts have nothing to do with the problems that plague WoW for the average player, and if I hadn’t REALLY wanted to play again, the barrier to entry and what the game expects you to know would of turned me off by level 20.

I don’t see a single post about how forgotten normals/heroics are at this point for the casual player that wants to do a dungeon. There is zero reason to do it. The ilvl is so unbearably low from it, you get better gear off the AH. As someone who came back looking for a game they could just chill and watch TV while they healed a Heroic for a shot a mediocre gear upgrade, the game has become non-existant.

So now I get to do exactly these things for gear upgrades to be “competitive” enough that I’m not instantly removed from whatever group I join: PvP and…uhhh LFR and… I guess try to solo ZM as a holy paladin. The regular group dungeon game is gone. M+ is not something I have any interest in, and never did.

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This is why I didn’t apply.

They aren’t interested in the opinions of normal players. At all.

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Nah it’s their forum to ask for their likes, and wants, and the nerfs they want. There are the occasional good threads like the one on Deaf players and mechanics, but others are no better than half the GD threads other than the lack of trolls.

Well we could always call it the Vampiric Council but Nandor,Nadja and Colin might come after it.

I think it’s better that the player base didn’t choose who got on the Community Council but that’s just my thoughts on it. I mean honestly we all had the opprotunity to apply when it started to be mentioned they were putting one into things.

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I was thinking the same thing. I’m pretty entertained here but I have seen maybe 2 good ideas in 15 years. The rest is people flailing about over a silly video game… which you have to admit , is pretty damn funny. :laughing:

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