Why is it called Community Council?

LOL this isn’t about me.

Since they were not voted on and they can post on whatever they want to (within the TOS of course) then no, they don’t represent the community. They represent themselves.

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I would argue that ignoring GD is beneficial to the game.

If I were a developer that spent more than five minutes in this cesspool I’d deliberately sabotage the game just to make you people as miserable as you deserve to be.

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Alright that made me laugh out loud. That’s harsh but pretty funny.

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Long, long, looooooong time ago, to the best of my knowledge. :rofl:

Honestly I don’t think the Community Council is suppose to represent players but the different communities within the game. So as member of RP communities they represent their experience in that community. Some of it may be their personal issues, some maybe more universal to realities of that community. This is why they have more than one person from a community there. It is not going to be perfect and it is a hand picked flower garden that in my opinion is not growing very well. The CC forums are pretty sad to look at because they are dead and the Blizzard involvement with them is so small. It is like a forgotten PR stunt.

inb4 Brewa and Timbae tell us the CC doesn’t have “real raiders” because none of the Mythic Raiders on CC have HOF. Lol.

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Well they couldn’t very well call it “Bunch of nerds we will pretend to listen to for a while as a publicity stunt council” could they?

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I want to say the last time was before WoD came out. I remember posting to coffee bird about flight being removed. Then they did that interview saying flight was not going to come back. My memory is pretty spotty but I remember when someone screws me over because I am petty like that :laughing:

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To be honest,the name is wrong,I see they don’t council the community nor us in GD. But :man_shrugging: nah.

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What community? And about that sword.

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Community council? OH you mean the Ministry of Ionites?

Teasing, I don’t really pay attention to those guys so I don’t know how much of their hyper focused voice is actually being listened to, but I imagine if current blizzard cherry picked them they are not saying anything blizz doesn’t want to hear - and a lot of what should be said to them is stuff they don’t want to hear.

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TBH, OP kind of has a point. The CC name implies selection by and from the community, which it isn’t. Blizz hand picked them from a bunch of applications. It should be called something else.

But then, naming forums have never been their strong suit as evidenced by the CS forum.

I don’t follow the CC forum but has anything actually come out of it? Like have there been any real changes to the game and such because of the community council?

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I think part of the problem is that there are a lot of people on the council, but a much smaller number that always post stuff. I think it’s great that the RP and accessibility communities get a lot of content each week and the PVP community gets good updates from Worldpvp, but there’s no one posting about M+, Heroic raiding, role or class specific topics, etc.

I try and keep up with it. Rare mob health tuning was a response to CC feedback. I think Marisol was a catalyst to getting updates to dungeons that cause motion sickness, the PVP criticisms in CC threads could be the reason that Dragonflight is going back to Warlords of Draenor PVP gearing, and recently there are very specific responses to the CC questions about the planned professions overhaul.

However, it’s hard to tell how much of Blizzard’s movement on some of the things discussed in the council were already in motion due to significant content available from YouTube and Twitch content creators.

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As opposed to the shining examples of value we have now handpicked by Activizard so no waves will be made?

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I mean, we have a council that wants more pink items, how much of a value is that? Lmao

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Because it’s a small group of players being used as an excuse for Blizzard to ignore feedback from elsewhere, and the small group of players is decided upon entirely by Blizzard, meaning it’s not representative of the larger community in any way, shape, or form, nor is there any system in place for CC Members to act as a middleman between regular posters and Blizzard, cementing that lack of representation.

CC is only a positive on a surface level. It’s essentially a PR move by Blizzard to make it look like they’re listening when they’re doing the opposite.

And then of course there was the botched launch of the program, staggering invites over MONTHS, but having the forum open from Day 1, meaning a large percentage of CC Members never even got to meaningfully contribute to hot topics before the initial members were done with the threads.

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I mean, you could read it before you post wild generalities. There’s a lot of criticism, particularly around PVP, and TONS of casual and solo player content, which isn’t exactly Ion’s expertise.

Not saying the Council is super helpful, and it could be a lot more critical, but it isn’t all Blizzard love-fest.

Preach, brother. Preach.

There are better ways to get player feedback other than the Blizzard Yes-Man Council.

The best way to get feedback on various issues is to conduct ad hoc focus groups of about 12 to 24 people (until thematic saturation occurs) and then perform thematic analysis followed by itemization then deploy an instrument to a small subset (say, 500 to 2000 players depending on the number of items) before refining the instrument and deploying it for everyone to fill out.

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