#mychanges
Seems like every time you ask them to post an actual argument in favor of dual specs they just post their opinion saying thats all the devs want is player feedback.
Mission accomplished I guess. You got 12 months and a 100k posts asking for dual specs. I guess you need to whine harder for free buffs? Ah well, good luck. Ill be sitting over there being thankful I wasnt on the completely wrong side of this topic for 18 months when Wrath finally gets here.
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Which unless you oppose all the changes blizzard has made to TBC Classic also applies to you.
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I think we’ve covered this already, back when I gave you the analogy of a kid asking their mom to bring him/her water when he/she is thirsty. The kid isn’t wrong to ask, but it is up to the mom to decide if she wants to bring them water.
There is no wrong or right about it, which is where your major malfunction is.
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I’m not arguing a want nor about changes; I’ve put forth valid arguments that I feel show the cons to implementing Dual Spec and not one post has directly addressed any of the 12 I put forth, I guess it’s just above your intellect to address things like lvl spread and character identity, your arguments for qol are just as valid as tmog and pet battles, For that matter mount and pet storage is IMO a bigger qol improvement than dual spec. Your arguments are all decades old and evolved into warmode and isn’t that the big argument pvp to pve swap. How about let’s bring inscription in game early to compliment dual spec and give enchanter vellum to let them sell their profession without talking to another person. All these suggestions are as likely happen tomorrow as any other change, 100% unknown but highly unlikely, Your wants may be justified and you may have valid points but imo they are inconveniences due to a lack of effort not an insurmountable hindrance and effect a small percentage of players overall.
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Literally all your reasons just come down to “it wasn’t in TBC originally”, or are simply false.
So yes it’s very relevant whether you are genuinely #nochanges or whether you just pull that card hypocritically for changes you don’t like.
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What does character identity and level spread have to do with changes?
Are you going to COMPLETELY IGNORE the fact that the post I just linked was made AFTER that one you’re linking? Are you going to COMPLETELY IGNORE the post you linked isn’t even directly talking about Dual Spec but the one I linked IS?
They never definitively said “no” to Dual Spec. Seal of the Martyr and Dual Spec both received a “not at this time” comment. Both were later implemented.
Seal of the Martyr being in TBC Classic is not fundamentally different compared to Dual Spec based on you taking Blue posts out of context, sorry.
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Yeah I said that 1000 times thanks for finally being correct on something. But the pro dual spec crowd made this an argument the moment they said people who dont want dual specs have the wrong opinion and that their opinion of TBC was better. They brought this little debate onto themselves.
Then we had the debate at their behest. The pro dual spec crowd lost. Their argument in the debate was they had no argument, just a biased opinion. Since biased opinions are not good feedback and you cant win arguments with them even if you start them and couple that with the fact that there’s no dual specs in TBC Id say thats plenty enough proof that theyre wrong.
Theyll never admit to it but we dont need them too.
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You’re absolutely right; they haven’t said yes or no; therefore, it is moot. You have made it clear you want a change and don’t care what that change effects or who it affects.
you get an actual argument. The problem is you never bother to read it.
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Thats not an argument. Its an unbacked theory steeped in bias. Youre welcome to that position but it does not overcome the actual facts that you can still respec, play and enjoy TBC without them.
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It’s not an unbacked theory. It’s a fact that many dps specced players have said on the forum they made an off spec to tank or heal when dual spec was added and would do so again. It only gets into the theory stage when we discuss the impact of many players creating an off spec to tank or heal. Will dual spec have a small, medium or large impact? It’s the same with the many players who have come to the forum saying they do not do arenas now but would create a pvp off spec to pvp if there was dual spec. It’s a fact that some would but a guess as to how many.
All you keep doing in these discussions is show that you haven’t learned how to tell the difference between an opinion and a fact. That’s the only thing you’ve actually proved.
I haven’t seen a shortage of tanks or healers. Just an abundance of dps,
Correct.
I’ve come to the conclusion based on historical precedence that Dual Spec makes the game much more enjoyable and the vast majority of players agree with that perspective. I do not care one bit about the small number of bitter purists who have seemingly managed to convince Blizzard’s terrible TBC Classic developers to delay the implementation of Dual Spec for made up, paranoid reasons.
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Which is no different from the people who don’t want dual spec not caring about who not having dual spec impacts and how. So probably not a good thing for you to act judgy about.
How could any of us take credit for guiding Blizz when we just have to let posts like these do all the talking?
Blizz doesnt agree with you because your stance just isnt worthy of consideration. Posts like that just demonstrate it perfectly.
Thank you. I mean that.
I don’t believe that people say that you’re opinion is wrong, merely that they don’t share your opinion.
People can disagree about opinions, that’s totally legitimate normal human discourse. What people can’t disagree on in normal legitimate discourse are facts.
Nobody has won, or lost anything. Even if the community doesn’t get dual spec before WotLK, nobody will have won or lost. You will have made a correct prediction, that’s all that there is to it. If they do give us dual spec before WotLK, you will not have lost, you will have just made an incorrect prediction.
Asking for something, regardless as to where, online or in real life - is not entering into a contest of win or lose. Again, you’re misunderstanding the fundamentals of human conversation, and society.
I don’t even know why I’m bothering, you clearly don’t understand - but I will have to assume that you were raised on the internet trolling people as a way of life and don’t actually interact with other people on a regular basis or form meaningful relationships.
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Yeah hearsay isnt proof of anything and not reliable in the least. Not sure why you keep misconstruing what a fact is. You might be able to prove that they said it, you cant prove that they’re gonna use in 10+ pugs a month, every month for example. Saying people would use them if they came in is no big revelation either. Its how theyre being used and thats completely subjective and varies by individual. You can only speculate - your unbacked speculation with your bias for dual specs is worthless. Fact.
Accusing me of the very thing youre doing is more sad than it should be. Youre a literal meme at this point. Say dumb stuff and then accuse people of being dumb.
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This is not what hearsay means. Let me give you an example of hearsay.
“I heard corpseknife never completed high school.”
That’s hearsay. If corpseknife posts in a forum somewhere and says “I never completed high school” and then someone else says, “corpseknife said he never completed high school,” then that’s not hearsay.
Again, illustrating that you lack basic vocabulary and use words without understanding what they mean (that’s what vocabulary means).
Nobody has ever said that they have compiled a list of committed activity based on a guarantee of dual spec being implemented. You’re completely making up arguments against points that haven’t been brought up.
You’re nuts. I’m done here for the day. I’ll check to see how you misunderstand all of this and use the wrong words again tomorrow.