Lol, being upset that we’re not getting placeholder mounts is like being upset that Tier 1 and 2 armor aren’t being implemented with their original placeholder art.
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It’s been said over and over and over again that they are not placeholder.
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And it has been explained over and over again why blizzard doesn’t want them, yet here we are.
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Same can be said about Classic in general, yet here we are? Blizzard is wrong about a lot of things, fyi.
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But you’re not wrong? who are you to tell blizzard what they can and cannot do?
( a paying customer?)
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Wrong about what? Wanting content that was within Vanilla’s timeline?
Yes? Lol. If they want money they have to listen to people. That’s the whole reason we are getting Classic to begin with.
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Then don’t give them your money until they meet your demands.
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I might or I might not. That’s up for me to decide. However, I would’ve probably given a lot more of my time and money if they actually listened to feedback.
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If you don’t you’re a hypocrite and your opinion is flawed you’ve proven that all any company has to do is wait and eventually you will cave in and give them your money.They can and do listen, they don’t have to do anything you say for the record.
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That’s untrue. Because I am still passionate about Classic. Unarmored mounts are a big deal for me, but not enough to stop me from playing. I would’ve had a lot more fun at 60 with an unarmored mount though, that’s for sure. (This ties to the fact I’d spent more time playing the game/character and give them money in the process.)
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if It’s not important enough to stand up for it then it’s not important at all.
lol. Ok bud.
I think I’ve stood up for it quite enough. Made over 200 posts on the topic, signed petitions, fought against trolls. What more can I do?
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Not play wow classic, or sub to blizzard or buy anything related to activision-blizzard.
My race is troll, i’m not trolling i just have a stronger will than you do.
Yes, that means you miss out on everything.
I don’t think you are trolling. In fact this is probably the most pleasant talk I’ve had with someone who disagrees with me on the topic. Which is ironic given your race.
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But i am a troll! the distinction must be made! #notalltrolls
As an example, i have as of this day never played Mass effect 3, or SWTOR since it went free to play because i disagreed with their choices.
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Can you provide a link to the statement suggesting that is the only thing influencing them how classic wow is going to be? If I recall, they are adding stage content (which includes updating the vendor tables) in order to achieve a more classical experience.
How does including the unarmored mounts affect the eligible inclusion of other items similar to its power influence? If you think they would further the classical experience, you should give feedback on them.
Should I level a dwarf (dat frost resist) for naxx or?
The player’s knowledge about other aspects of the game ( future raid content and class tuning) is already establish; there will be many hindsight factors that will influence their initial start and progression through each phase.
The Winterspring frostsaber says subjective.
If Blizzard wanted them gone, they would’ve outright removed them (even if they were in your possession). But, the players who acquired them before their retirement still got to keep them long after (they even made a FoS acknowledging them on retail).
There was a vendor in vanilla that allowed players to exchange their unarmored mounts for the new armored ones. imo, not having unarmored mounts at all would be less authentic than having them both.
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Philmahuders you are entertaining them way too much by replying. They will circle around your post and after a few hours to a day will post the same thing you just replied to.
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I’ll address your points backwards.
The same response will address both of these points. The reason there was a vendor is because Blizzard knew it would be a bad idea to invalidate rewards they had already given out. Rewards are what underpin an MMORPG. If you show players there accomplishments might get taken away after the fact, that’s a huge blow to player motivation. So the people who did get them got to choose. They mounts were still removed for everyone else.
In this case, the rewards are never going to be introduced, so there is nothing to take away, hence everything works out.
The frostsaber is a special case. Very, very few players ever get the frostsaber as it requires a lot of grinding. Epic mounts are sort of the “standard package” of what a player should expect to get at end game and you never had a choice between armor or no armor when you bought one for the same speed mount. Also, the frostsaber will obviously be unlockable forever. So it’s really apples to oranges.
There are two axis we can measure this on: definiteness and impact. Naxx is supposed to be in the game, and is part of the definitive rendition of Vanilla. The mounts were removed during Vanilla, as they were not what the Vanilla devs wanted. The impact of Naxx on the meta is also low. Very few people will choose their class based on Naxx, as it’s a very long term goal that isn’t going away. The mounts, however, are an achievable goal if you set yourself to it and power level. They are also on a timer, and therefore the limited nature skews the axis of impact to the point where they start to influence the meta too much for what they are.
Because we need consistency. If you take a little bit from this patch and a little bit from that patch, you end up with a permutation of Vanilla that is very off from what ever existed. The line is drawn at 1.12 as the definitive edition of Vanilla, and we’re only adding very major pieces of content. No balancing, no individual items, etc.
I’m only bringing that point up as a counter to people saying that Blizzard is doing something they wouldn’t have done in Vanilla. I’m not saying they’ve committed to following the Vanilla devs in all their decisions. Certainly if the Vanilla devs took something out, it means they really didn’t want it to be there, it was either a test that failed or something they did out of a lack of time.
What it really comes down to is the impact of the change versus how impactful the change should be. In this case you’re taking what is essentially something pretty niche, an unfinished mount that some people got for some period of time that Blizzard didn’t want to be there, and then working it up to a launch goal with its limited nature, and therefore exclusivity. It would essentially be the lowest hanging fruit in that regard, as the other exclusives are maybe going to go to a handful of people on the server.
Posting for my friend Shimy,
Hello everyone, the thread was in fact closed BECAUSE of the petition and the petition link. Please continue to talk about this subject, I will be back on June 25th and if a new thread has not been created than I will create a new one. Someone who feels just as passionate about this could also make a new thread which I completely support.
Blizzard Please implement the Original Epic Mounts that were removed in patch 1.4, keep them in the game forever and remove the “non blizzlike” race to 60 that you are so afraid of.
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Someone who has the privilege to post links should make the thread. That way they can show pictures and links to the unarmored mounts etc.
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